[VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018
Hey TOC and community, we are requesting a vote to keep linkerd (https://github.com/linkerd/linkerd) as an inception project for another year based on their presentation yesterday. Here are some stats shared yesterday from the linkerd community: * 60+ contributors; 50+ releases (2--4 week cadence); 3400+ GH stars * 1.5m+ Docker Hub pulls; 5--10 billion requests a day * 1400+ Slack members * 40+ companies using Linkerd in production. Public ones include Monzo, CreditKarma, Salesforce, Expedia, BigCommerce, NCBI, PayPal, Taboola, FOX, and AOL * Powers the Human Genome Project! Please vote +1/-1 (remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support). Also note that every inception project has to be reviewed on an annual basis to decide whether it will continue to be a CNCF project or potentially graduate to another level. We will have another discussion in the near future about moving/graduating linkerd to another level, along with other CNCF projects. Thanks! Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) | +1-512-961-6719 |
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Santosa, Andy <asantosa@...>
Hi Chris,
Personally, I would like to get clarification of competing component: linkerd vs istio. I learnt for example one company I met in KubeCon converting from linkerd to istio.
Regards,
-Andy
From: <cncf-toc@...> on behalf of Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...>
Reply-To: "cncf-toc@..." <cncf-toc@...> Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 8:38 AM To: "cncf-toc@..." <cncf-toc@...> Subject: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018 Hey TOC and community, we are requesting a vote to keep linkerd (https://github.com/linkerd/linkerd)
as an inception project for another year based on their presentation yesterday. Here are some stats shared yesterday from the linkerd community:
* 60+ contributors; 50+ releases (2--4 week cadence); 3400+ GH stars
* 1.5m+ Docker Hub pulls; 5--10 billion requests a day * 1400+ Slack members * 40+ companies using Linkerd in production. Public ones include Monzo, CreditKarma, Salesforce, Expedia, BigCommerce, NCBI, PayPal, Taboola, FOX, and AOL * Powers the Human Genome Project! Please vote +1/-1 (remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support).
Also note that every inception project has to be reviewed on an annual basis to decide whether it will continue to be a CNCF project or potentially graduate to another level. We will have another discussion in the near future about moving/graduating linkerd
to another level, along with other CNCF projects.
Thanks!
Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) | +1-512-961-6719
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CNCF allows for competing projects, see our TOC principles for more information on this: Istio currently isn't an official CNCF project but has been invited to formalize a project proposal. For the merits of one project over another, I'd advise you to speak to the respective project communities for that information. On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Santosa, Andy <asantosa@...> wrote:
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Brian Grant
Different projects make different design tradeoffs. Also, these 2 projects aren't directly comparable. On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> wrote:
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Brian Grant
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> wrote:
In general, I'd like to link to devstats dashboards in these types of reviews, so we can see the trajectory. For example:
Why are we doing this in 2 steps? This is just a "yes, we want to keep the project" decision? |
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alexis richardson
"Why are we doing this in 2 steps? This is just a "yes, we want to
keep the project" decision?" agreed, Chris, what's your thinking here? On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Brian Grant via Lists.Cncf.Io <briangrant=google.com@...> wrote: On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Chris Aniszczyk |
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Yes, this is simply "let's keep this project going" decision. It's in two steps because I'd like to queue up multiple projects to be reviewed to graduate/move to the next level in one TOC call. I'd also like linkerd to follow the process we've been experimenting with fluentd (https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/69) and coredns (https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/66). That's all. On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:14 PM, alexis richardson <alexis@...> wrote: "Why are we doing this in 2 steps? This is just a "yes, we want to --
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William Morgan
FWIW that article is not 100% correct. Linkerd ships with a control plane (Namerd). This is how these companies are controlling routing policy across Linkerd instances. -William On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Brian Grant via Lists.Cncf.Io <briangrant=google.com@...> wrote:
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brandon@...
I don't have a vote, but I'd love to see linkerd remain a CNCF project. - brandon On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:20 PM William Morgan <william@...> wrote:
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Duncan Johnston-Watt <duncan.johnstonwatt@...>
I don't have a binding vote either but I am curious given linkerd's impressive stats why it isn't being promoted? Best Duncan On 17 January 2018 at 20:59, Brandon Dimcheff via Lists.Cncf.Io <brandon=olark.com@...> wrote:
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Dan Kohn <dan@...>
I think the biggest concern is that Buoyant continues to dominate development given that other companies are generally making small patches rather than becoming major contributors. Chart: Please note that non-binding votes are encouraged. -- Dan Kohn <dan@...> Executive Director, Cloud Native Computing Foundation https://www.cncf.io +1-415-233-1000 https://www.dankohn.com On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:24 PM, Duncan Johnston-Watt <duncan.johnstonwatt@...> wrote:
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Doug Davis <dug@...>
+1 to keeping it - non-binding I think the biggest concern is that Buoyant continues to dominate development given that other companies are generally making small patches rather than becoming major contributors. Chart: https://linkerd.devstats.cncf.io/dashboard/db/companies-velocity?orgId=1 Please note that non-binding votes are encouraged. -- Dan Kohn <dan@...> Executive Director, Cloud Native Computing Foundation https://www.cncf.io +1-415-233-1000 https://www.dankohn.com On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:24 PM, Duncan Johnston-Watt <duncan.johnstonwatt@...> wrote:
Best Duncan On 17 January 2018 at 20:59, Brandon Dimcheff via Lists.Cncf.Io <brandon=olark.com@...> wrote: I don't have a vote, but I'd love to see linkerd remain a CNCF project. - brandon On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:20 PM William Morgan <william@...> wrote:
-William On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Brian Grant via Lists.Cncf.Io <briangrant=google.com@...> wrote: Different projects make different design tradeoffs. Also, these 2 projects aren't directly comparable. This article explains the difference pretty well: https://blog.envoyproxy.io/service-mesh-data-plane-vs-control-plane-2774e720f7fc On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> wrote:
https://github.com/cncf/toc/blob/master/PRINCIPLES.md#no-kingmakers--one-size-does-not-fit-all Istio currently isn't an official CNCF project but has been invited to formalize a project proposal. For the merits of one project over another, I'd advise you to speak to the respective project communities for that information. On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Santosa, Andy <asantosa@...> wrote: Hi Chris, Personally, I would like to get clarification of competing component: linkerd vs istio. I learnt for example one company I met in KubeCon converting from linkerd to istio. Regards, -Andy From: <cncf-toc@...> on behalf of Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> Reply-To: "cncf-toc@..." <cncf-toc@...> Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 8:38 AM To: "cncf-toc@..." <cncf-toc@...> Subject: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018 Hey TOC and community, we are requesting a vote to keep linkerd (https://github.com/linkerd/linkerd) as an inception project for another year based on their presentation yesterday. Here are some stats shared yesterday from the linkerd community: * 60+ contributors; 50+ releases (2--4 week cadence); 3400+ GH stars * 1.5m+ Docker Hub pulls; 5--10 billion requests a day * 1400+ Slack members * 40+ companies using Linkerd in production. Public ones include Monzo, CreditKarma, Salesforce, Expedia, BigCommerce, NCBI, PayPal, Taboola, FOX, and AOL * Powers the Human Genome Project! Please vote +1/-1 (remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support). Also note that every inception project has to be reviewed on an annual basis to decide whether it will continue to be a CNCF project or potentially graduate to another level. We will have another discussion in the near future about moving/graduating linkerd to another level, along with other CNCF projects. Thanks! -- Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) | +1-512-961-6719
-- Duncan Johnston-Watt Founder & Chair, Advisory Board Phone: +44 777 190 2653 | Skype: duncan_johnstonwatt Twitter: @duncanjw | LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/duncanjohnstonwatt Stay up to date with everything Cloudsoft: |
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Brian Grant
Contributor diversity is not an explicit criterion at the incubation stage: On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 7:58 PM, Dan Kohn <dan@...> wrote:
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alexis richardson
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+1 Vote
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Sam Lambert <samlambert@...>
+1 non-binding. On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 9:55 AM, alexis richardson <alexis@...> wrote: Here is my |
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Sam Lambert <samlambert@...>
Apologies, my vote is binding. On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 10:19 AM, Sam Lambert <samlambert@...> wrote:
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Brian Grant
+1 from me, as well, but we need to talk about the desired process going forward On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 8:55 AM, alexis richardson <alexis@...> wrote: Here is my |
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Erin Boyd
+1 non-binding for me, with +1 to Brian Grant on process On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Brian Grant via Lists.Cncf.Io <briangrant=google.com@...> wrote:
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Shannon Williams <shannon@...>
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On Behalf Of Erin Boyd
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+1 non-binding for me, with +1 to Brian Grant on process
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Brian Grant via Lists.Cncf.Io <briangrant=google.com@...> wrote:
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Brandon DuRette
+1 non binding On Fri, Jan 19, 2018, 12:12 AM Shannon Williams <shannon@...> wrote:
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