New version of Cloud Native Landscape
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Dan Kohn <dan@...>
You may be interested in the new version of the CNCF Cloud Native Landscape. As always, if you see something wrong, please open at issue at https://github.com/cncf/landscape:
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Camille Fournier
Can someone point me to the doc or remind me why we decided to put "CI/CD" into the "provisioning" layer? It's a bit of an odd duck there so we must've had a good reason for it. Thanks, C
On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Dan Kohn via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Pini Reznik
Would be good to add a section for service providers. Especially now, when we have the first batch of certified kubernetes service provides Pini
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 at 18:13, Camille Fournier via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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alexis richardson
Woah. How did CICD get moved? Wtf
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Landscape 0.92 is authoritative. I'm afraid this new thing is not. Dan, Chris, any ideas?
On Tue, 12 Sep 2017, 02:13 Camille Fournier via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Camille Fournier
It looks like it changed pretty significantly between 0.9.5 and 0.9.6.
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:04 PM, Alexis Richardson <alexis@...> wrote: Woah. How did CICD get moved? Wtf
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alexis richardson
That's very disappointing
On Tue, 12 Sep 2017, 03:05 Camille Fournier <skamille@...> wrote:
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alexis richardson
The TOC will have to fix this, by going back to the 0.92 structure, which was correct. And rebuilding from there.
On Tue, 12 Sep 2017, 03:06 Alexis Richardson <alexis@...> wrote:
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Dan Kohn <dan@...>
I made the change at the last minute to deal with a spacing issue. I will revert it in the next version and restore CI/CD to the top layer. Apologies.
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:35 PM, Alexis Richardson <alexis@...> wrote:
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alexis richardson
Dan Please could you revert to the last known good version? Alexis
On Tue, 12 Sep 2017, 05:34 Dan Kohn <dan@...> wrote:
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alexis richardson
maybe we should have a whole 'nother 'scape for data
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:45 PM Yaron Haviv <yaronh@...> wrote:
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Dan Kohn <dan@...>
Alexis, there are hundreds of positive changes in the latest version. We can do an 0.9.7 quickly, though.
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 3:55 AM, Alexis Richardson <alexis@...> wrote:
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Yaron Haviv <yaronh@...>
I also assume we will soon see a slew of “cloud-native” AI/ML start-ups, where would they sit?
BTW interesting to learn DB2 & Oracle are “cloud-native” now, maybe we should add Lotus Notes 😊
Yaron
From: Alexis Richardson [mailto:alexis@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 2:48 PM To: Yaron Haviv <yaronh@...>; Dan Kohn <dan@...>; Benjamin Hindman <benh@...>; Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> Subject: Re: [cncf-toc] New version of Cloud Native Landscape
maybe we should have a whole 'nother 'scape for data
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:45 PM Yaron Haviv <yaronh@...> wrote:
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alexis richardson
I'm sorry to hear that the changes are many and complex. Speaking for the TOC, the most important thing is to preserve the layering and buckets within each layer. Because we voted on that.
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:49 PM Dan Kohn <dan@...> wrote:
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alexis richardson
AIs will create their own maps that humans cannot understand :-P
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:51 PM Yaron Haviv <yaronh@...> wrote:
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Brian Grant
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 4:51 AM, Yaron Haviv via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
Not every application in the universe should be in this map, whether they are cloud-native or not. The map is already too busy. I'd prefer to kick out a number of the projects that are currently in the app definition layer and just enumerate whole areas that are out of scope.
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Brian Grant
Good catch, Camille. Yeah, there are a bunch of changes in this version that don't make sense. For example, why is Openstack at a layer above public cloud?
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 4:51 AM, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Brian Grant
No, service providers are documented elsewhere.
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Pini Reznik via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Brian Grant
That's a symptom that this is becoming too much of an eye chart to be useful. I suggest having one diagram that shows the areas and current CNCF projects, and one diagram per area/layer/column with other projects.
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 9:34 PM, Dan Kohn via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Dan Kohn <dan@...>
We were making a distinction between software for provisioning a public (or private cloud) and providers offering public clouds.
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Dan Kohn <dan@...>
We have an interactive version under development that will allow better zooming and filtering, as well as include dynamic info like GitHub stars and funding from Crunchbase.
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Brian Grant <briangrant@...> wrote:
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