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Pini Reznik
 

Of course Brian.
We will just have a first call today.

On vr 3 jun. 2016 at 13:35, Brian Grant <briangrant@...> wrote:
Pini, please keep me in the loop. 


On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Pini Reznik via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
We are available indeed.
Will continue the conversation with Dan and Chris.

Pini

On vr 3 jun. 2016 at 12:11, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:


On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, 19:05 Camille Fournier, <skamille@...> wrote:
I got connected briefly with the folks making this:

which is I think in the general ballpark.

they contacted me off list yesterday to say they are available 

i connected them with Dan K


C

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
Jon,

Noted, thanks.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Jonathan Boulle <jonathan.boulle@...> wrote:
I'm not totally opposed to the try idea in principle or as an end goal - my lack of obvious enthusiasm was more about a) resources (who's going to do it?)

I think we'd want to commission a 3rd party to do work, much as we talked about for some of the docs.

 
and b) putting the cart before the horse - as Alexis alluded to I think we have some way to go before we have a clear enough idea of the model applications etc.

Indeed.

a


 

On 2 June 2016 at 10:25, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
+1 

Lee, 

I agree with you on this --- i.e that "try" services help in many ways.  I was a bit surprised by the lack of buy-in during the call.  Having said that, the call was about setting an achievable number of priorities.  If we *can* get cloud native apps & patterns into shape, then it may be more obvious how to "try" them.  

a




On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Lee Calcote via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
All,

Given the CNCF’s role of promulgating a general understanding of what cloud native is, specifically how the projects governed by the CNCF provide platforms and tooling for cloud native applications, I think the “try” approach to providing easy-to-use, publically-available sandboxes is a true facilitator, couching edification of cloud native in context of the CNCF projects.

The “try” sandboxes could:

  • have walk-thru tutorials that parlay and reference the “model applications” Bryan Cantrill referred to.
  • utilize part of the (idle?) 1000-node cluster for the CNCF community 
  • be leveraged as a platform for training courses and developer certification
  • be a source of measuring interest, adoption, demographics

A page could be taken from these successes LinuxContainers.org and TryStack.org (I’ll through in Cisco dCloud as well).

I’m sure of the order of operations / speaking rules on the conference call. Apologies if I chimed-in out of turn today.

Cheers,
Lee



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Brian Grant
 

Pini, please keep me in the loop. 

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Pini Reznik via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
We are available indeed.
Will continue the conversation with Dan and Chris.

Pini

On vr 3 jun. 2016 at 12:11, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:


On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, 19:05 Camille Fournier, <skamille@...> wrote:
I got connected briefly with the folks making this:

which is I think in the general ballpark.

they contacted me off list yesterday to say they are available 

i connected them with Dan K


C

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
Jon,

Noted, thanks.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Jonathan Boulle <jonathan.boulle@...> wrote:
I'm not totally opposed to the try idea in principle or as an end goal - my lack of obvious enthusiasm was more about a) resources (who's going to do it?)

I think we'd want to commission a 3rd party to do work, much as we talked about for some of the docs.

 
and b) putting the cart before the horse - as Alexis alluded to I think we have some way to go before we have a clear enough idea of the model applications etc.

Indeed.

a


 

On 2 June 2016 at 10:25, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
+1 

Lee, 

I agree with you on this --- i.e that "try" services help in many ways.  I was a bit surprised by the lack of buy-in during the call.  Having said that, the call was about setting an achievable number of priorities.  If we *can* get cloud native apps & patterns into shape, then it may be more obvious how to "try" them.  

a




On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Lee Calcote via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
All,

Given the CNCF’s role of promulgating a general understanding of what cloud native is, specifically how the projects governed by the CNCF provide platforms and tooling for cloud native applications, I think the “try” approach to providing easy-to-use, publically-available sandboxes is a true facilitator, couching edification of cloud native in context of the CNCF projects.

The “try” sandboxes could:

  • have walk-thru tutorials that parlay and reference the “model applications” Bryan Cantrill referred to.
  • utilize part of the (idle?) 1000-node cluster for the CNCF community 
  • be leveraged as a platform for training courses and developer certification
  • be a source of measuring interest, adoption, demographics

A page could be taken from these successes LinuxContainers.org and TryStack.org (I’ll through in Cisco dCloud as well).

I’m sure of the order of operations / speaking rules on the conference call. Apologies if I chimed-in out of turn today.

Cheers,
Lee



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Pini Reznik
 

We are available indeed.
Will continue the conversation with Dan and Chris.

Pini

On vr 3 jun. 2016 at 12:11, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:


On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, 19:05 Camille Fournier, <skamille@...> wrote:
I got connected briefly with the folks making this:

which is I think in the general ballpark.

they contacted me off list yesterday to say they are available 

i connected them with Dan K


C

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
Jon,

Noted, thanks.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Jonathan Boulle <jonathan.boulle@...> wrote:
I'm not totally opposed to the try idea in principle or as an end goal - my lack of obvious enthusiasm was more about a) resources (who's going to do it?)

I think we'd want to commission a 3rd party to do work, much as we talked about for some of the docs.

 
and b) putting the cart before the horse - as Alexis alluded to I think we have some way to go before we have a clear enough idea of the model applications etc.

Indeed.

a


 

On 2 June 2016 at 10:25, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
+1 

Lee, 

I agree with you on this --- i.e that "try" services help in many ways.  I was a bit surprised by the lack of buy-in during the call.  Having said that, the call was about setting an achievable number of priorities.  If we *can* get cloud native apps & patterns into shape, then it may be more obvious how to "try" them.  

a




On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Lee Calcote via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
All,

Given the CNCF’s role of promulgating a general understanding of what cloud native is, specifically how the projects governed by the CNCF provide platforms and tooling for cloud native applications, I think the “try” approach to providing easy-to-use, publically-available sandboxes is a true facilitator, couching edification of cloud native in context of the CNCF projects.

The “try” sandboxes could:

  • have walk-thru tutorials that parlay and reference the “model applications” Bryan Cantrill referred to.
  • utilize part of the (idle?) 1000-node cluster for the CNCF community 
  • be leveraged as a platform for training courses and developer certification
  • be a source of measuring interest, adoption, demographics

A page could be taken from these successes LinuxContainers.org and TryStack.org (I’ll through in Cisco dCloud as well).

I’m sure of the order of operations / speaking rules on the conference call. Apologies if I chimed-in out of turn today.

Cheers,
Lee



“(c) Promotion of the underlying technologies, and approach to application definition and management, including: events and conferences, marketing (SEM, direct marketing), training courses and developer certification

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alexis richardson
 



On Fri, 3 Jun 2016, 19:05 Camille Fournier, <skamille@...> wrote:
I got connected briefly with the folks making this:

which is I think in the general ballpark.

they contacted me off list yesterday to say they are available 

i connected them with Dan K


C

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
Jon,

Noted, thanks.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Jonathan Boulle <jonathan.boulle@...> wrote:
I'm not totally opposed to the try idea in principle or as an end goal - my lack of obvious enthusiasm was more about a) resources (who's going to do it?)

I think we'd want to commission a 3rd party to do work, much as we talked about for some of the docs.

 
and b) putting the cart before the horse - as Alexis alluded to I think we have some way to go before we have a clear enough idea of the model applications etc.

Indeed.

a


 

On 2 June 2016 at 10:25, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
+1 

Lee, 

I agree with you on this --- i.e that "try" services help in many ways.  I was a bit surprised by the lack of buy-in during the call.  Having said that, the call was about setting an achievable number of priorities.  If we *can* get cloud native apps & patterns into shape, then it may be more obvious how to "try" them.  

a




On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Lee Calcote via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
All,

Given the CNCF’s role of promulgating a general understanding of what cloud native is, specifically how the projects governed by the CNCF provide platforms and tooling for cloud native applications, I think the “try” approach to providing easy-to-use, publically-available sandboxes is a true facilitator, couching edification of cloud native in context of the CNCF projects.

The “try” sandboxes could:

  • have walk-thru tutorials that parlay and reference the “model applications” Bryan Cantrill referred to.
  • utilize part of the (idle?) 1000-node cluster for the CNCF community 
  • be leveraged as a platform for training courses and developer certification
  • be a source of measuring interest, adoption, demographics

A page could be taken from these successes LinuxContainers.org and TryStack.org (I’ll through in Cisco dCloud as well).

I’m sure of the order of operations / speaking rules on the conference call. Apologies if I chimed-in out of turn today.

Cheers,
Lee



“(c) Promotion of the underlying technologies, and approach to application definition and management, including: events and conferences, marketing (SEM, direct marketing), training courses and developer certification

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Camille Fournier
 

I got connected briefly with the folks making this:

which is I think in the general ballpark.

C

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
Jon,

Noted, thanks.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Jonathan Boulle <jonathan.boulle@...> wrote:
I'm not totally opposed to the try idea in principle or as an end goal - my lack of obvious enthusiasm was more about a) resources (who's going to do it?)

I think we'd want to commission a 3rd party to do work, much as we talked about for some of the docs.

 
and b) putting the cart before the horse - as Alexis alluded to I think we have some way to go before we have a clear enough idea of the model applications etc.

Indeed.

a


 

On 2 June 2016 at 10:25, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
+1 

Lee, 

I agree with you on this --- i.e that "try" services help in many ways.  I was a bit surprised by the lack of buy-in during the call.  Having said that, the call was about setting an achievable number of priorities.  If we *can* get cloud native apps & patterns into shape, then it may be more obvious how to "try" them.  

a




On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Lee Calcote via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
All,

Given the CNCF’s role of promulgating a general understanding of what cloud native is, specifically how the projects governed by the CNCF provide platforms and tooling for cloud native applications, I think the “try” approach to providing easy-to-use, publically-available sandboxes is a true facilitator, couching edification of cloud native in context of the CNCF projects.

The “try” sandboxes could:

  • have walk-thru tutorials that parlay and reference the “model applications” Bryan Cantrill referred to.
  • utilize part of the (idle?) 1000-node cluster for the CNCF community 
  • be leveraged as a platform for training courses and developer certification
  • be a source of measuring interest, adoption, demographics

A page could be taken from these successes LinuxContainers.org and TryStack.org (I’ll through in Cisco dCloud as well).

I’m sure of the order of operations / speaking rules on the conference call. Apologies if I chimed-in out of turn today.

Cheers,
Lee



“(c) Promotion of the underlying technologies, and approach to application definition and management, including: events and conferences, marketing (SEM, direct marketing), training courses and developer certification

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alexis richardson
 

Jon,

Noted, thanks.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Jonathan Boulle <jonathan.boulle@...> wrote:
I'm not totally opposed to the try idea in principle or as an end goal - my lack of obvious enthusiasm was more about a) resources (who's going to do it?)

I think we'd want to commission a 3rd party to do work, much as we talked about for some of the docs.

 
and b) putting the cart before the horse - as Alexis alluded to I think we have some way to go before we have a clear enough idea of the model applications etc.

Indeed.

a


 

On 2 June 2016 at 10:25, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
+1 

Lee, 

I agree with you on this --- i.e that "try" services help in many ways.  I was a bit surprised by the lack of buy-in during the call.  Having said that, the call was about setting an achievable number of priorities.  If we *can* get cloud native apps & patterns into shape, then it may be more obvious how to "try" them.  

a




On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Lee Calcote via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
All,

Given the CNCF’s role of promulgating a general understanding of what cloud native is, specifically how the projects governed by the CNCF provide platforms and tooling for cloud native applications, I think the “try” approach to providing easy-to-use, publically-available sandboxes is a true facilitator, couching edification of cloud native in context of the CNCF projects.

The “try” sandboxes could:

  • have walk-thru tutorials that parlay and reference the “model applications” Bryan Cantrill referred to.
  • utilize part of the (idle?) 1000-node cluster for the CNCF community 
  • be leveraged as a platform for training courses and developer certification
  • be a source of measuring interest, adoption, demographics

A page could be taken from these successes LinuxContainers.org and TryStack.org (I’ll through in Cisco dCloud as well).

I’m sure of the order of operations / speaking rules on the conference call. Apologies if I chimed-in out of turn today.

Cheers,
Lee



“(c) Promotion of the underlying technologies, and approach to application definition and management, including: events and conferences, marketing (SEM, direct marketing), training courses and developer certification

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Jonathan Boulle <jonathan.boulle@...>
 

I'm not totally opposed to the try idea in principle or as an end goal - my lack of obvious enthusiasm was more about a) resources (who's going to do it?) and b) putting the cart before the horse - as Alexis alluded to I think we have some way to go before we have a clear enough idea of the model applications etc.

On 2 June 2016 at 10:25, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
+1 

Lee, 

I agree with you on this --- i.e that "try" services help in many ways.  I was a bit surprised by the lack of buy-in during the call.  Having said that, the call was about setting an achievable number of priorities.  If we *can* get cloud native apps & patterns into shape, then it may be more obvious how to "try" them.  

a




On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Lee Calcote via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
All,

Given the CNCF’s role of promulgating a general understanding of what cloud native is, specifically how the projects governed by the CNCF provide platforms and tooling for cloud native applications, I think the “try” approach to providing easy-to-use, publically-available sandboxes is a true facilitator, couching edification of cloud native in context of the CNCF projects.

The “try” sandboxes could:

  • have walk-thru tutorials that parlay and reference the “model applications” Bryan Cantrill referred to.
  • utilize part of the (idle?) 1000-node cluster for the CNCF community 
  • be leveraged as a platform for training courses and developer certification
  • be a source of measuring interest, adoption, demographics

A page could be taken from these successes LinuxContainers.org and TryStack.org (I’ll through in Cisco dCloud as well).

I’m sure of the order of operations / speaking rules on the conference call. Apologies if I chimed-in out of turn today.

Cheers,
Lee



“(c) Promotion of the underlying technologies, and approach to application definition and management, including: events and conferences, marketing (SEM, direct marketing), training courses and developer certification

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alexis richardson
 

+1 

Lee, 

I agree with you on this --- i.e that "try" services help in many ways.  I was a bit surprised by the lack of buy-in during the call.  Having said that, the call was about setting an achievable number of priorities.  If we *can* get cloud native apps & patterns into shape, then it may be more obvious how to "try" them.  

a




On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Lee Calcote via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
All,

Given the CNCF’s role of promulgating a general understanding of what cloud native is, specifically how the projects governed by the CNCF provide platforms and tooling for cloud native applications, I think the “try” approach to providing easy-to-use, publically-available sandboxes is a true facilitator, couching edification of cloud native in context of the CNCF projects.

The “try” sandboxes could:

  • have walk-thru tutorials that parlay and reference the “model applications” Bryan Cantrill referred to.
  • utilize part of the (idle?) 1000-node cluster for the CNCF community 
  • be leveraged as a platform for training courses and developer certification
  • be a source of measuring interest, adoption, demographics

A page could be taken from these successes LinuxContainers.org and TryStack.org (I’ll through in Cisco dCloud as well).

I’m sure of the order of operations / speaking rules on the conference call. Apologies if I chimed-in out of turn today.

Cheers,
Lee



“(c) Promotion of the underlying technologies, and approach to application definition and management, including: events and conferences, marketing (SEM, direct marketing), training courses and developer certification

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Lee Calcote
 

All,

Given the CNCF’s role of promulgating a general understanding of what cloud native is, specifically how the projects governed by the CNCF provide platforms and tooling for cloud native applications, I think the “try” approach to providing easy-to-use, publically-available sandboxes is a true facilitator, couching edification of cloud native in context of the CNCF projects.

The “try” sandboxes could:

  • have walk-thru tutorials that parlay and reference the “model applications” Bryan Cantrill referred to.
  • utilize part of the (idle?) 1000-node cluster for the CNCF community 
  • be leveraged as a platform for training courses and developer certification
  • be a source of measuring interest, adoption, demographics

A page could be taken from these successes LinuxContainers.org and TryStack.org (I’ll through in Cisco dCloud as well).

I’m sure of the order of operations / speaking rules on the conference call. Apologies if I chimed-in out of turn today.

Cheers,
Lee



“(c) Promotion of the underlying technologies, and approach to application definition and management, including: events and conferences, marketing (SEM, direct marketing), training courses and developer certification