[VOTE] [PAUSE] INCEPTION


alexis richardson
 

Hi all

In this week's TOC we converged on some possible changes to the
Inception tier, that can address issues that have been raised about
market perception & confusion. It is most likely that Inception will
be replaced with a "Sandbox" tier.

Chris Aniszczyk is drafting a written statement proposing Sandbox and
associated changes and clarifications. This will include much of the
discussion from the Zoom Chat on this week's TOC call. This draft is
under active editing now:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MkuVT7Q6itn9ESW-iyqIXsEqTPBrStXlvzESg94933A/edit

Until the TOC has reviewed the Sandbox proposal we shall suspend
voting on Inception projects. I apologise for any delays that are
caused by this. For the avoidance of further confusion, Sandbox will
be presented *as soon as possible* which I hope means at the next TOC
call.

alexis






On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:55 PM, Yang Guan via Lists.Cncf.Io
<yangguan=google.com@...> wrote:
+1 (non-binding)


Bryan Cantrill <bryan@...>
 


I'm sorry to have missed the call this week, but I think the term "Sandbox" is great -- in addition to its positive connotations of fun and play, it's also dirty and filled with sniffling toddlers, broken plastic toys, and the occasional cat poop.  Much, much better than "inception"!

        - Bryan


On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 6:48 PM, alexis richardson <alexis@...> wrote:
Hi all

In this week's TOC we converged on some possible changes to the
Inception tier, that can address issues that have been raised about
market perception & confusion.  It is most likely that Inception will
be replaced with a "Sandbox" tier.

Chris Aniszczyk is drafting a written statement proposing Sandbox and
associated changes and clarifications.  This will include much of the
discussion from the Zoom Chat on this week's TOC call.  This draft is
under active editing now:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MkuVT7Q6itn9ESW-iyqIXsEqTPBrStXlvzESg94933A/edit

Until the TOC has reviewed the Sandbox proposal we shall suspend
voting on Inception projects.  I apologise for any delays that are
caused by this.  For the avoidance of further confusion, Sandbox will
be presented *as soon as possible* which I hope means at the next TOC
call.

alexis






On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:55 PM, Yang Guan via Lists.Cncf.Io
<yangguan=google.com@lists.cncf.io> wrote:
> +1 (non-binding)
>





alexis richardson
 

Hurrah


On Thu, 8 Feb 2018, 10:24 Bryan Cantrill, <bryan@...> wrote:

I'm sorry to have missed the call this week, but I think the term "Sandbox" is great -- in addition to its positive connotations of fun and play, it's also dirty and filled with sniffling toddlers, broken plastic toys, and the occasional cat poop.  Much, much better than "inception"!

        - Bryan

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 6:48 PM, alexis richardson <alexis@...> wrote:
Hi all

In this week's TOC we converged on some possible changes to the
Inception tier, that can address issues that have been raised about
market perception & confusion.  It is most likely that Inception will
be replaced with a "Sandbox" tier.

Chris Aniszczyk is drafting a written statement proposing Sandbox and
associated changes and clarifications.  This will include much of the
discussion from the Zoom Chat on this week's TOC call.  This draft is
under active editing now:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MkuVT7Q6itn9ESW-iyqIXsEqTPBrStXlvzESg94933A/edit

Until the TOC has reviewed the Sandbox proposal we shall suspend
voting on Inception projects.  I apologise for any delays that are
caused by this.  For the avoidance of further confusion, Sandbox will
be presented *as soon as possible* which I hope means at the next TOC
call.

alexis






On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:55 PM, Yang Guan via Lists.Cncf.Io
<yangguan=google.com@...> wrote:
> +1 (non-binding)
>





Doug Davis <dug@...>
 

Can we get the phrase "cat poop" added to the formal CNCF definition of Sandbox? That would make our governance docs much more interesting to read.


thanks
-Doug
_______________________________________________________
STSM | IBM Open Source, Cloud Architecture & Technology
(919) 254-6905 | IBM 444-6905 | dug@...
The more I'm around some people, the more I like my dog

"Bryan Cantrill" ---02/08/2018 05:24:38 AM---I'm sorry to have missed the call this week, but I think the term "Sandbox" is great -- in addition

From: "Bryan Cantrill" <bryan@...>
To: cncf-toc@...
Cc: CNCF TOC <cncf-toc@...>
Date: 02/08/2018 05:24 AM
Subject: Re: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] [PAUSE] INCEPTION
Sent by: cncf-toc@...






I'm sorry to have missed the call this week, but I think the term "Sandbox" is great -- in addition to its positive connotations of fun and play, it's also dirty and filled with sniffling toddlers, broken plastic toys, and the occasional cat poop.  Much, much better than "inception"!

        - Bryan


On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 6:48 PM, alexis richardson <alexis@...> wrote:
    Hi all

    In this week's TOC we converged on some possible changes to the
    Inception tier, that can address issues that have been raised about
    market perception & confusion.  It is most likely that Inception will
    be replaced with a "Sandbox" tier.

    Chris Aniszczyk is drafting a written statement proposing Sandbox and
    associated changes and clarifications.  This will include much of the
    discussion from the Zoom Chat on this week's TOC call.  This draft is
    under active editing now:
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MkuVT7Q6itn9ESW-iyqIXsEqTPBrStXlvzESg94933A/edit

    Until the TOC has reviewed the Sandbox proposal we shall suspend
    voting on Inception projects.  I apologise for any delays that are
    caused by this.  For the avoidance of further confusion, Sandbox will
    be presented *as soon as possible* which I hope means at the next TOC
    call.

    alexis






On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:55 PM, Yang Guan via Lists.Cncf.Io
<yangguan=google.com@...> wrote:
> +1 (non-binding)
>







alexis richardson
 

As a dog owner, I object to that.

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Doug Davis <dug@...> wrote:

Can we get the phrase "cat poop" added to the formal CNCF definition of Sandbox? That would make our governance docs much more interesting to read.


thanks
-Doug
_______________________________________________________
STSM | IBM Open Source, Cloud Architecture & Technology
(919) 254-6905 | IBM 444-6905 | dug@...
The more I'm around some people, the more I like my dog

"Bryan Cantrill" ---02/08/2018 05:24:38 AM---I'm sorry to have missed the call this week, but I think the term "Sandbox" is great -- in addition

From: "Bryan Cantrill" <bryan@...>
To: cncf-toc@...
Cc: CNCF TOC <cncf-toc@...>
Date: 02/08/2018 05:24 AM
Subject: Re: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] [PAUSE] INCEPTION
Sent by: cncf-toc@...






I'm sorry to have missed the call this week, but I think the term "Sandbox" is great -- in addition to its positive connotations of fun and play, it's also dirty and filled with sniffling toddlers, broken plastic toys, and the occasional cat poop.  Much, much better than "inception"!

        - Bryan


On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 6:48 PM, alexis richardson <alexis@...> wrote:
    Hi all

    In this week's TOC we converged on some possible changes to the
    Inception tier, that can address issues that have been raised about
    market perception & confusion.  It is most likely that Inception will
    be replaced with a "Sandbox" tier.

    Chris Aniszczyk is drafting a written statement proposing Sandbox and
    associated changes and clarifications.  This will include much of the
    discussion from the Zoom Chat on this week's TOC call.  This draft is
    under active editing now:
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MkuVT7Q6itn9ESW-iyqIXsEqTPBrStXlvzESg94933A/edit

    Until the TOC has reviewed the Sandbox proposal we shall suspend
    voting on Inception projects.  I apologise for any delays that are
    caused by this.  For the avoidance of further confusion, Sandbox will
    be presented *as soon as possible* which I hope means at the next TOC
    call.

    alexis






    On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:55 PM, Yang Guan via Lists.Cncf.Io
    <yangguan=google.com@lists.cncf.io> wrote:
    > +1 (non-binding)
    >








Doug Davis <dug@...>
 

As a dog owner (see my sig), I love it!

Imagine all of the other easter eggs we could put in our docs.
We could "make governance docs great again!"


thanks
-Doug
_______________________________________________________
STSM | IBM Open Source, Cloud Architecture & Technology
(919) 254-6905 | IBM 444-6905 | dug@...
The more I'm around some people, the more I like my dog

"alexis richardson" ---02/08/2018 07:44:37 AM---As a dog owner, I object to that. On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Doug Davis <dug@...> wrote

From: "alexis richardson" <alexis@...>
To: cncf-toc@...
Cc: Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...>
Date: 02/08/2018 07:44 AM
Subject: Re: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] [PAUSE] INCEPTION
Sent by: cncf-toc@...





As a dog owner, I object to that.

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Doug Davis <dug@...> wrote:
    Can we get the phrase "cat poop" added to the formal CNCF definition of Sandbox? That would make our governance docs much more interesting to read.


    thanks
    -Doug
    _______________________________________________________
    STSM | IBM Open Source, Cloud Architecture & Technology
    (919) 254-6905 | IBM 444-6905 | dug@...
    The more I'm around some people, the more I like my dog

    "Bryan Cantrill" ---02/08/2018 05:24:38 AM---I'm sorry to have missed the call this week, but I think the term "Sandbox" is great -- in addition

    From:
    "Bryan Cantrill" <bryan@...>
    To:
    cncf-toc@...
    Cc:
    CNCF TOC <cncf-toc@...>
    Date:
    02/08/2018 05:24 AM
    Subject:
    Re: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] [PAUSE] INCEPTION
    Sent by:
    cncf-toc@...






    I'm sorry to have missed the call this week, but I think the term "Sandbox" is great -- in addition to its positive connotations of fun and play, it's also dirty and filled with sniffling toddlers, broken plastic toys, and the occasional cat poop.  Much, much better than "inception"!

            - Bryan


    On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 6:48 PM, alexis richardson <alexis@...> wrote:
        Hi all

        In this week's TOC we converged on some possible changes to the
        Inception tier, that can address issues that have been raised about
        market perception & confusion.  It is most likely that Inception will
        be replaced with a "Sandbox" tier.

        Chris Aniszczyk is drafting a written statement proposing Sandbox and
        associated changes and clarifications.  This will include much of the
        discussion from the Zoom Chat on this week's TOC call.  This draft is
        under active editing now:
        https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MkuVT7Q6itn9ESW-iyqIXsEqTPBrStXlvzESg94933A/edit

        Until the TOC has reviewed the Sandbox proposal we shall suspend
        voting on Inception projects.  I apologise for any delays that are
        caused by this.  For the avoidance of further confusion, Sandbox will
        be presented *as soon as possible* which I hope means at the next TOC
        call.

        alexis






On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:55 PM, Yang Guan via Lists.Cncf.Io
<yangguan=google.com@...> wrote:
> +1 (non-binding)
>










Stephen Watt
 

+1. I think the term "sandbox" is great. 

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Doug Davis <dug@...> wrote:

As a dog owner (see my sig), I love it!

Imagine all of the other easter eggs we could put in our docs.
We could "make governance docs great again!"


thanks
-Doug
_______________________________________________________
STSM | IBM Open Source, Cloud Architecture & Technology
(919) 254-6905 | IBM 444-6905 | dug@...
The more I'm around some people, the more I like my dog

"alexis richardson" ---02/08/2018 07:44:37 AM---As a dog owner, I object to that. On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Doug Davis <dug@...> wrote

From: "alexis richardson" <alexis@...>
To: cncf-toc@...
Cc: Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...>
Date: 02/08/2018 07:44 AM


Subject: Re: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] [PAUSE] INCEPTION
Sent by: cncf-toc@...




As a dog owner, I object to that.

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Doug Davis <dug@...> wrote:
    Can we get the phrase "cat poop" added to the formal CNCF definition of Sandbox? That would make our governance docs much more interesting to read.


    thanks
    -Doug
    _______________________________________________________
    STSM | IBM Open Source, Cloud Architecture & Technology
    (919) 254-6905 | IBM 444-6905 | dug@...
    The more I'm around some people, the more I like my dog

    "Bryan Cantrill" ---02/08/2018 05:24:38 AM---I'm sorry to have missed the call this week, but I think the term "Sandbox" is great -- in addition

    From:
    "Bryan Cantrill" <bryan@...>
    To:
    cncf-toc@...
    Cc:
    CNCF TOC <cncf-toc@...>
    Date:
    02/08/2018 05:24 AM
    Subject:
    Re: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] [PAUSE] INCEPTION
    Sent by:
    cncf-toc@...






    I'm sorry to have missed the call this week, but I think the term "Sandbox" is great -- in addition to its positive connotations of fun and play, it's also dirty and filled with sniffling toddlers, broken plastic toys, and the occasional cat poop.  Much, much better than "inception"!

            - Bryan


    On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 6:48 PM, alexis richardson <alexis@...> wrote:
        Hi all

        In this week's TOC we converged on some possible changes to the
        Inception tier, that can address issues that have been raised about
        market perception & confusion.  It is most likely that Inception will
        be replaced with a "Sandbox" tier.

        Chris Aniszczyk is drafting a written statement proposing Sandbox and
        associated changes and clarifications.  This will include much of the
        discussion from the Zoom Chat on this week's TOC call.  This draft is
        under active editing now:
        https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MkuVT7Q6itn9ESW-iyqIXsEqTPBrStXlvzESg94933A/edit

        Until the TOC has reviewed the Sandbox proposal we shall suspend
        voting on Inception projects.  I apologise for any delays that are
        caused by this.  For the avoidance of further confusion, Sandbox will
        be presented *as soon as possible* which I hope means at the next TOC
        call.

        alexis






        On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 10:55 PM, Yang Guan via Lists.Cncf.Io
        <yangguan=google.com@lists.cncf.io> wrote:
        > +1 (non-binding)
        >