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Re: Q&A on Moby Project & CNCF?
Solomon Hykes <solomon.hykes@...>
On Sunday, April 23, 2017, Yaron Haviv <yaronh@...> wrote:
Yes that's exactly right. What Fedora/RHEL did for the early Linux movement, we are hoping to do for the container movement with Moby/Docker. That is exactly what we are encouraging. Moby is designed to support any component that can be containerized, regardless of who is behind it. Moby doesn't "own" the components: it helps assemble them for downstream integration or upstream development. We showed several demos at the Dockercon keynote to illustrate that point: we used Moby to assemble various proof-of-concepts from eg. prometheus, etcd, redis, and kubernetes. The closing demo was a collaboration with Ilya Dmitrichenko from Weave to build a custom "kubernetes for mac" prototype using Moby. I think the audience liked it :) This seems like a valid concern but I don't understand what you mean exactly. Could you give me an example of outcome you'd like to avoid, or encourage?
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Re: Q&A on Moby Project & CNCF?
Yaron Haviv
Solomon,
Seems like there is interest to learn about Moby beyond the TOC Saw your TheCUBE interview and Moby does make sense, sort of the Linux and RedHat/Fedora model if I got it right
The things that need interpretation are: in the Linux/Fedora model many of the components come from the community and have open governance and not owned by RedHat, they just test and package based on project maturity and customer demand, its unlikely to see successful (non RedHat) Linux projects that don’t make it to of the Fedora and RedHat package Moby seems very focused on Docker Inc components, e.g. would you support a commercial package that take your best parts with say Kubernetes or other CNCF projects.
Another concern is how do we create more collaboration on the open-source/common parts (like Linux) and less fragmentation with overlapping vendor specific projects that don’t have open governance models or common abstractions/interchangeability
Thanks, Yaron
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Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 1:12 AM To: CNCF TOC <cncf-toc@...> Subject: [cncf-toc] Q&A on Moby Project & CNCF?
Hi all, this week Docker launched an important new project: the Moby project (http://mobyproject.org). Moby will allow Docker to better collaborate with the ecosystem in general, and the CNCF in particular.
Several people from the CNCF community have asked questions about it, and how it relates to CNCF. I thought it might be useful to allocate time on the TOC call to take questions.
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Re: Q&A on Moby Project & CNCF?
alexis richardson
Sounds good, let's get this on agenda for May, probably first call on May 3 On Sat, 22 Apr 2017, 23:39 Swarna Podila via cncf-toc, <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Re: Q&A on Moby Project & CNCF?
Swarna Podila <swarna@...>
That would be helpful. On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 3:38 PM Duncan Johnston-Watt via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Re: Q&A on Moby Project & CNCF?
Duncan Johnston-Watt <duncan.johnstonwatt@...>
+1 for CNCF community at large. Best -- Duncan Johnston-Watt CEO | Cloudsoft Corporation +44 777 190 2653 | @duncanjw Sent from my iPhone On 23 Apr 2017, at 01:11, Solomon Hykes via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Q&A on Moby Project & CNCF?
Solomon Hykes <solomon.hykes@...>
Hi all, this week Docker launched an important new project: the Moby project (http://mobyproject.org). Moby will allow Docker to better collaborate with the ecosystem in general, and the CNCF in particular.
Several people from the CNCF community have asked questions about it, and how it relates to CNCF. I thought it might be useful to allocate time on the TOC call to take questions. What do you think? |
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Re: Vitess follow up
alexis richardson
Sugu
Thank-you. Those are good reasons! Are there specific places where you'd like help winning or keeping more contributors? Look forward to your view on systems & tradeoffs. Can I humbly ask that you include Cockroach, Rethink & Goshawk? Maybe others. a On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Sugu Sougoumarane via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote: Hi Chris, Alexis, |
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Re: Vitess follow up
Sugu Sougoumarane
Hi Chris, Alexis, For the license, we already intend to change it to ALv2: https://github.com/youtube/vitess/issues/2694. For the comparison of various systems and trade-offs, we'll try to put something together in the next few days. As for why we're excited about wanting to join CNCF, I think this issue describes it well: https://github.com/youtube/vitess/issues/2670. PS: Thanks for the adopters suggestion on github. I'll work on that, and also see if we can feature them on vitess.io. On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Chris Aniszczyk via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Re: Vitess follow up
Also in terms of process, I believe Brian Grant on today's call has expressed interest in sponsoring the project from the TOC. I'd suggest at a following or next TOC meeting to decide whether the TOC desires to formally invite the project. Another thing to bring up is that Vitess is currently under the BSD-3 license (https://github.com/youtube/vitess/blob/master/LICENSE), which isn't a major issue, but we will have to decide what approach to take (move to ALv2 or go for an exception) if they become a project. On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Vitess follow up
alexis richardson
Sugu Thank you again for your pres today. What would *help Vitess the most* from a project advancement & end user POV? How can CNCF help? a |
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Re: Agenda for TOC 4/19/17 Meeting
Gianluca Arbezzano <gianarb92@...>
mmm I need to double check into the thread. Let's keep this out. I will confirm next meeting :) 2017-04-19 16:55 GMT+02:00 Alexis Richardson <alexis@...>:
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Re: Agenda for TOC 4/19/17 Meeting
alexis richardson
Gianluca, has Camille reviewed this? On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 3:53 PM Gianluca Arbezzano via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Re: Agenda for TOC 4/19/17 Meeting
Gianluca Arbezzano <gianarb92@...>
I am happy to share something about this proposal: I shared it via wg-ci some week ago, in practice, we didn't move that much. But I am happy to hear something from you if I can. 2017-04-19 16:42 GMT+02:00 Bryan Cantrill via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...>:
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Re: Agenda for TOC 4/19/17 Meeting
Bryan Cantrill <bryan@...>
With my apologies for the late notice, I'm unable to make the call this morning due to a meeting that I can't move; talk to you in two weeks. - Bryan On Apr 18, 2017 7:22 PM, "Chris Aniszczyk via cncf-toc" <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Re: Agenda for TOC 4/19/17 Meeting
Doug Davis <dug@...>
The doc hasn't really been touched in a while so we might have all the reviews/comments we're going to get. I did a little bit of clean-up around the "What should a CNCF WG do in this space?" section so I think getting some eyes on that would be good. Whether we discuss it this week or next time is fine with me. thanks Mark! can you be sure to remind me & chris to get this discussed in the next TOC in 2-3 weeks? feel free to add reminder to today's TOC deck On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 1:38 PM Mark Peek <markpeek@...> wrote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L9n9tkGuGtj7Ap9dVRes9RVscSoXeKsF3k-d2hJcDlg/edit Mark On 4/19/17, 7:21 AM, "cncf-toc-bounces@... on behalf of Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc" <cncf-toc-bounces@... on behalf of cncf-toc@...> wrote: thanks Chris ** urgent ** if anyone has any adds for today please shout out. eg: do we want to have a recap on next steps for Serverless discussion, or wait till after Dockercon? On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 1:21 AM, Chris Aniszczyk via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote: > Here's the draft agenda deck for tomorrow: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__goo.gl_1PJscF&d=DwICAg&c=uilaK90D4TOVoH58JNXRgQ&r=guabfC-f8fFYbN_-NG4ozDvopr9AE_oGI5dhoTYxMKY&m=itR0uKc7LSf8HjMGncQKaNQDz1QZp-qkRZF2Avp-GD8&s=wdDFgb-amate1HlWvgho2Uebw0vPiG2H7XcjbgsFivA&e= > > The main topics are: > - Networking WG Update / Recommendations > - Community presentation from Vitess (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_youtube_vitess&d=DwICAg&c=uilaK90D4TOVoH58JNXRgQ&r=guabfC-f8fFYbN_-NG4ozDvopr9AE_oGI5dhoTYxMKY&m=itR0uKc7LSf8HjMGncQKaNQDz1QZp-qkRZF2Avp-GD8&s=jmCPxpwzC7uFLPhYdSCia0X0sQRIJcAPKWiavbfSNlE&e= ) > > I look forward to seeing everyone tomorrow on the call! > > -- > Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) | +1-512-961-6719 > > _______________________________________________ > cncf-toc mailing list > cncf-toc@... > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.cncf.io_mailman_listinfo_cncf-2Dtoc&d=DwICAg&c=uilaK90D4TOVoH58JNXRgQ&r=guabfC-f8fFYbN_-NG4ozDvopr9AE_oGI5dhoTYxMKY&m=itR0uKc7LSf8HjMGncQKaNQDz1QZp-qkRZF2Avp-GD8&s=TBGFv9eCIgt-xBMh774DLwkfa5YyWuHrIKx0DSnhIQw&e= > _______________________________________________ cncf-toc mailing list cncf-toc@... https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.cncf.io_mailman_listinfo_cncf-2Dtoc&d=DwICAg&c=uilaK90D4TOVoH58JNXRgQ&r=guabfC-f8fFYbN_-NG4ozDvopr9AE_oGI5dhoTYxMKY&m=itR0uKc7LSf8HjMGncQKaNQDz1QZp-qkRZF2Avp-GD8&s=TBGFv9eCIgt-xBMh774DLwkfa5YyWuHrIKx0DSnhIQw&e= _______________________________________________ cncf-toc mailing list cncf-toc@... https://lists.cncf.io/mailman/listinfo/cncf-toc |
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Re: Agenda for TOC 4/19/17 Meeting
alexis richardson
thanks Mark! can you be sure to remind me & chris to get this discussed in the next TOC in 2-3 weeks? feel free to add reminder to today's TOC deck On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 1:38 PM Mark Peek <markpeek@...> wrote: Given dockercon might take away availability and attention I’d be fine with moving further serverless discussion out to the next meeting. Perhaps a reminder to review/comment on the notes document: |
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Re: Agenda for TOC 4/19/17 Meeting
Mark Peek
Given dockercon might take away availability and attention I’d be fine with moving further serverless discussion out to the next meeting. Perhaps a reminder to review/comment on the notes document:
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L9n9tkGuGtj7Ap9dVRes9RVscSoXeKsF3k-d2hJcDlg/edit Mark On 4/19/17, 7:21 AM, "cncf-toc-bounces@... on behalf of Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc" <cncf-toc-bounces@... on behalf of cncf-toc@...> wrote:
thanks Chris ** urgent ** if anyone has any adds for today please shout out. eg: do we want to have a recap on next steps for Serverless discussion, or wait till after Dockercon? On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 1:21 AM, Chris Aniszczyk via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote: > Here's the draft agenda deck for tomorrow: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__goo.gl_1PJscF&d=DwICAg&c=uilaK90D4TOVoH58JNXRgQ&r=guabfC-f8fFYbN_-NG4ozDvopr9AE_oGI5dhoTYxMKY&m=itR0uKc7LSf8HjMGncQKaNQDz1QZp-qkRZF2Avp-GD8&s=wdDFgb-amate1HlWvgho2Uebw0vPiG2H7XcjbgsFivA&e= > > The main topics are: > - Networking WG Update / Recommendations > - Community presentation from Vitess (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_youtube_vitess&d=DwICAg&c=uilaK90D4TOVoH58JNXRgQ&r=guabfC-f8fFYbN_-NG4ozDvopr9AE_oGI5dhoTYxMKY&m=itR0uKc7LSf8HjMGncQKaNQDz1QZp-qkRZF2Avp-GD8&s=jmCPxpwzC7uFLPhYdSCia0X0sQRIJcAPKWiavbfSNlE&e= ) > > I look forward to seeing everyone tomorrow on the call! > > -- > Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) | +1-512-961-6719 > > _______________________________________________ > cncf-toc mailing list > cncf-toc@... > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.cncf.io_mailman_listinfo_cncf-2Dtoc&d=DwICAg&c=uilaK90D4TOVoH58JNXRgQ&r=guabfC-f8fFYbN_-NG4ozDvopr9AE_oGI5dhoTYxMKY&m=itR0uKc7LSf8HjMGncQKaNQDz1QZp-qkRZF2Avp-GD8&s=TBGFv9eCIgt-xBMh774DLwkfa5YyWuHrIKx0DSnhIQw&e= > _______________________________________________ cncf-toc mailing list cncf-toc@... https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.cncf.io_mailman_listinfo_cncf-2Dtoc&d=DwICAg&c=uilaK90D4TOVoH58JNXRgQ&r=guabfC-f8fFYbN_-NG4ozDvopr9AE_oGI5dhoTYxMKY&m=itR0uKc7LSf8HjMGncQKaNQDz1QZp-qkRZF2Avp-GD8&s=TBGFv9eCIgt-xBMh774DLwkfa5YyWuHrIKx0DSnhIQw&e= |
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Re: Agenda for TOC 4/19/17 Meeting
alexis richardson
thanks Chris
** urgent ** if anyone has any adds for today please shout out. eg: do we want to have a recap on next steps for Serverless discussion, or wait till after Dockercon? On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 1:21 AM, Chris Aniszczyk via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote: Here's the draft agenda deck for tomorrow: https://goo.gl/1PJscF |
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Agenda for TOC 4/19/17 Meeting
Here's the draft agenda deck for tomorrow: https://goo.gl/1PJscF The main topics are: - Networking WG Update / Recommendations - Community presentation from Vitess (https://github.com/youtube/vitess) I look forward to seeing everyone tomorrow on the call! Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) | +1-512-961-6719 |
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Kubernetes Panel and Reception in Austin, a CNCF Sponsored Event, 6 PM Mon 4/17
Katie Schultz <kschultz@...>
Hello, Please join the CNCF, CoreOS and Google Cloud Platform for a panel and reception where you can mingle and hear from some of the experts in the Kubernetes community. It will be held at 6 PM on Monday, April 17 at Google Fiber 201 Colorado Street in Austin, TX. Registration is required About the Reception and Panel | 6:00pm - 9:00pm Join us for drinks, appetizers and a healthy dose of conversation about Kubernetes. This reception will bring together cloud native experts and the community for a night of networking and a panel. The reception & panel is a free event. Panelist:
Registration for the reception is required. Please feel free to invite your colleagues, customers and prospects who will be attending DockerCon to learn more about cloud native and Kubernetes. RSVP here. If you have any questions about the panel or reception, please do not hesitate to email kschultz@.... We look forward to seeing you on April 17! Kind regards, Katie Katie Schultz Event and Meeting Planner The Linux Foundation One Letterman Drive Building D, Suite D4700 San Francisco CA 94129 T: +1.720.227.8536 E: kschultz@... W: linuxfoundation.org and events.linuxfoundation.org Why Attend Linux Foundation Events: https://youtu.be/X_rLxfmLlYY |
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Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc ---04/19/2017 07:43:39 AM---thanks Mark! can you be sure to remind me & chris to get this discussed in the next TOC in 2-3 week