Re: DRAFT CNCF Project Commercial Guidelines
Brian Grant
Looks reasonable. Just had a couple of minor comments.
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 7:29 AM, Dan Kohn via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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DRAFT CNCF Project Commercial Guidelines
Dan Kohn <dan@...>
Many CNCF projects began life within a single company and then transitioned to be community-managed before or after being accepted into the CNCF. This document provides some guidelines on how the project’s website should evolve. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xcvMfPB1J21Pc4lJohQD0fEoy1iuBeFxrvqdFL-KA04/edit I've run this document by the maintainers of each of the 7 projects, and (after some updates) all 7 of the project websites now follow these guidelines. I'm looking to achieve rough consensus on this document amongst both the TOC and the CNCF marketing committee. If you have questions or concerns, please add comments to the Google Doc or reach out to me directly. If we seem to have consensus, I will post it to the CNCF Foundation GitHub repo. -- Executive Director, Cloud Native Computing Foundation <https://cncf.io/> tel:+1-415-233-1000
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FYI: CNCon/KubeCon EU 2017 on track to sell out!
Hi TOC and wider CNCF community!
Just to let you know, CloudNativeCon + KubeCon Europe 2017 has once again grown at such an incredible pace, we have over 1,000 registrants and are averaging 12 registrations a day. We planned for a capacity of 1,500 (almost 500 over Seattle) but we are limited on space by the venue and are on track to sell out. If you or your colleagues plan to attend in Berlin, we recommend getting your tickets soon! Register at: http://events. Thanks and hope to see you in Berlin! --Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) | +1-512-961-6719
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Re: [RESULT] CoreDNS Project Accepted (inception)
Alex <alex@...>
Congratulations!
Alex CEO Email: alex@... Tel/Fax: 0755-23243169 Mobile/Wechat: (852)55675211 (86)13380795129
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well done!!
2017-03-02 16:33 GMT+00:00 Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...>:
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Re: [RESULT] CoreDNS Project Accepted (inception)
Gianluca Arbezzano <gianarb92@...>
well done!! 2017-03-02 16:33 GMT+00:00 Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...>:
congrats! --
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Re: [RESULT] CoreDNS Project Accepted (inception)
alexis richardson
congrats!
On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Chris Aniszczyk via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote: Hey everyone, I'm happy to announce that CoreDNS (https://coredns.io/) has
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[RESULT] CoreDNS Project Accepted (inception)
Hey everyone, I'm happy to announce that CoreDNS (https://coredns.io/) has been accepted as a CNCF inception level project: https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/9 binding +1 TOC votes (6/9): - Jon Boulle: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-February/000579.html - Alexis Richardson: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-February/000582.html - Brian Grant: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-February/000622.html - Ben Hindman: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-February/000623.html - Ken Owens: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-February/000580.html - Camille Fournier: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-February/000661.html non-binding +1 community votes: - J Ram: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-February/000581.html Thanks again to everyone who voted and lets welcome CoreDNS to the CNCF family, we'll be working with them over the next few weeks to give them a new home! If you happen to be at CNCon/KubeCon EU, the CoreDNS team will be hosting a salon: https://cloudnativeeu2017.sched.com/overview/type/Salon Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) | +1-512-961-6719
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Zuul v3 and Kubernetes testing sig
Dan Kohn <dan@...>
I wanted to explicitly call out the action item that Brian Grant suggested that Clint Byrum engage with the Kubernetes Testing SIG and get their impressions on Zuul v3. Here is their contact info: Clint, if you're able to schedule a presentation and/or demo with them, I'd appreciate if you could reply to this message and let us know when it will be so that those of us following the space can listen in. Thanks. -- Executive Director, Cloud Native Computing Foundation <https://cncf.io/> tel:+1-415-233-1000
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Re: Documentation recap
Kenneth Owens (kenowens) <kenowens@...>
We can also host a documentation hackathon at various meet-ups. Cost is typically pizza and soda.
From: cncf-toc-bounces@... [mailto:cncf-toc-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Dan Kohn via cncf-toc
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 12:17 PM To: Alexis Richardson <alexis@...> Cc: CNCF TOC <cncf-toc@...> Subject: Re: [cncf-toc] Documentation recap
CNCF projects should contact Sarah Conway (cc'ed) and myself for documentation funding.
The beta test I mentioned for gamification of activity (and which I encourage you to try and comment on) is http://k8sport.org/.
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
-- Dan Kohn <mailto:dan@...> Executive Director, Cloud Native Computing Foundation <https://cncf.io/>
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Re: Documentation recap
Dan Kohn <dan@...>
CNCF projects should contact Sarah Conway (cc'ed) and myself for documentation funding. The beta test I mentioned for gamification of activity (and which I encourage you to try and comment on) is http://k8sport.org/.
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Re: Documentation recap
alexis richardson
Two tiny addenda Dan mentioned that cncf could help kube by eg funding editorial polish for otherwise raw content. There was a discussion about the gamification of non-feature contributions, and the kube/cncf pilot of this.
On Wed, 1 Mar 2017, 18:09 Jonathan Boulle via cncf-toc, <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Documentation recap
Jonathan Boulle <jonathan.boulle@...>
Quick summary of the documentation talk in the call today: - Most projects are using similar documentation sites already (simple Jekyll/GitHub hosted websites that render markdown), probably not a lot to add here - Projects like Kubernetes are "too big to help" in the sense that they already have large, established infrastructure and processes around managing and publishing documentation; CNCF can help with some content though - Brian G had concerns about long ramp-up time with random contractors; perhaps instead we can re-use a resource that becomes familiar with the projects (especially as they intersect) - Another area Kubernetes could use help is homepage design - perhaps this is also something we can provide an optional consistent design for projects? anything I missed?
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Re: Today's TOC meeting - slides
alexis richardson
I believe Chris knows where those are kept.
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On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Chris McClimans <hh@...> wrote:
I was unable to attend due to a scheduling conflict.
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Re: Today's TOC meeting - slides
no but the deck should contain most of the relevant notes
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Chris McClimans via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote: I was unable to attend due to a scheduling conflict. --
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Re: Today's TOC meeting - slides
Hippie Hacker
I was unable to attend due to a scheduling conflict.
Is a recording available? Cheers, hh@... On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote: here
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Re: Storage Patterns for container native - community content
imho it makes sense, would love to see the storage wg start working here in the open: https://github.com/cncf/wg-storage
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Re: Storage Patterns for container native - community content
alexis richardson
+benh
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Alex Chircop via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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[RESULT] gRPC Project Accepted (incubation)
Hey everyone, I'm happy to announce that gRPC (https://grpc.io) has been accepted as a CNCF incubation level project: https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/23 binding +1 TOC votes (8/9): - Alexis Richardson: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-February/000608.html - Bryan Cantrill: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-February/000613.html - Camille Fournier: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-February/000618.html - Solomon Hykes: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-February/000620.html non-binding +1 community votes: - Josh Bernstein: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-February/000617.html - Ihor Dvoretskyi: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-February/000616.html - Chris Liljenstolpe: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-February/000633.html - William Morgan: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-February/000635.html Thanks again to everyone who voted and we'll be working with the gRPC community over the next few weeks to welcome them to the CNCF family! Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) | +1-512-961-6719
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Re: Storage Patterns for container native - community content
We are making some updates to the doc based on some of the feedback.
I do agree, we need to show how cloud native is different in terms of how you deploy and rebuild a POD, but I also believe that users are interested in how to manage the persistence that is required by the POD in terms of the databases, object stores, message queues and instrumentation/logs that provide the services that POD requires for persistence. The classes of storage that are used to build these services in terms of accessibility, performance, scalability, qos, portability are important, policy/scheduler based decisions such as security, encryption and placement are key, and for some there may still be dependencies on replication, snapshots etc … This is why we wanted to flesh out some of the storage primitives that would be considered.
Question – would this discussion and the content that we are working on be a suitable topic for the newly defined storage working group ?
Thanks, Alex
From: Yaron Haviv <yaronh@...>
Alex,
I agree with Clinton’s point that we want to focus on what makes Cloud-Native different, not sure covering all the legacy Storage protocols serves that purpose There are too many users today that try to fit VM concepts into Cloud-Native and take us out of focus The key point is allowing continuous development and ops, elasticity, distribution, .. Looking at the 12 factors, notions of Stateless & immutable tasks, Service bindings (to data), Atomicity are enabling that
It’s a different craft than today’s storage approached as I highlighted in my blog post, e.g. you don’t snapshot/backup a POD, you build it from a Git tag You use message queues to enable elastic scaling and fault-tolerance, you store data using atomic operations (to Obj/NoSQL) vs trust file-systems to flush data out and risk inconsistent states. For the guys who would argue they want to snapshot stateful services like Mongo/Cassandra/Object, a short reminder is those are un-coordinated scaled-out instances, and in many cases versioning and re-builds are built into it
Yaron
From: Alex Chircop [mailto:alex.chircop@...]
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 4:14 PM To: Kitson, Clinton <Clinton.Kitson@...>; Yaron Haviv <yaronh@...>; cncf-toc@... Subject: RE: [cncf-toc] Storage Patterns for container native - community content
Clinton / Yaron,
Thank you for the feedback. We will get some of that added to the doc, although we were thinking of covering some of those topics in more depth in future articles. We’ll update the draft and recirculate.
Thanks, Alex
From: Kitson, Clinton [mailto:Clinton.Kitson@...]
Alex,
Sorry for the late review. My concern currently is that the document spends 80% of the time talking about what is known about some storage platforms today and the last portion discussing what looks to be technical details of a specific storage platform implementation. Cloud native with storage is definitely different, and just applying existing hardware thinking to this new area doesn't feel quite right.
Here are some of the questions that I think should be answered which leads towards a "what is cloud native storage topic".
What makes storage in cloud native computing different? What cloud native applications require persistent storage of any form? What kinds of storage services are used with cloud native applications? What role does integration and interoperability play to build cloud native storage? What opportunities do cloud native orchestrators present for operating persistent storage platforms? What is cloud native storage?
Clint Kitson Technical Director {code} by Dell EMC --- email: Clinton.Kitson@... mobile: "+1 424 645 4116" team: codeDellEMC.com twitter: "@clintonskitson" github: github.com/clintonskitson From:
cncf-toc-bounces@... [cncf-toc-bounces@...] on behalf of Yaron Haviv via cncf-toc [cncf-toc@...] I wrote a post a while ago on impact of Cloud-Native on Storage, can reuse its content, you may want to take the abstraction to the next level just like we did on compute (from VMs to services/apps).
https://sdsblog.com/2015/09/16/cloud-native-will-shake-up-enterprise-storage/
Yaron
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cncf-toc-bounces@... [mailto:cncf-toc-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Alex Chircop via cncf-toc
Hi,
We have prepared the content for the first topic in the list (albeit a little later than we hoped for). This is the first doc we have produced and is meant to serve as an overview of storage concepts to provide some background before going into the more detailed content articles we are planning next. We have tried to keep it fairly broad and have touched on some of the technologies found in many enterprises as well as in CN environments like virtual and distributed options.
I’d like to know your thoughts and get feedback and comments (I’m sure there will be loads) so that we can make it a better doc for the community. Also, as per the previous request – we would be very happy to work with anybody else who might have some time to contribute!
Doc is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ntdU4q4ZmfX-EyClxKAK6yaikQleg6maSeijDXi_u0c/edit?usp=sharing
Kind Regards, Alex
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From: Alex Chircop
Hi,
Following the discussion at the last TOC call, I’m attaching a doc to cover the topics that we are volunteering to generate for the community. As background, we are proposing to focus this series on storage related patterns, starting with an overview and moving onto more complex use cases and examples. We are planning to generate roughly an article a week on average for around ~3 months.
I’m keen to understand if this is in line with what you think would be useful to the community and would be interested in any feedback and comments. We would obviously be more than happy to work with anyone else who might be interested in contributing and/or any opportunity for joint work on any of the topics.
Doc is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/14vVawyRcRRPm_mGZfl-tpQDCq2Q9aWxeHgdpZLAWnzU
Kind Regards, Alex
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Today's TOC meeting - slides
alexis richardson
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