Re: The Cloud-Nativity of Serverless
Mark Coleman <mark@...>
Thanks for kicking this off Ryan. To provide a little more context for the rest of the TOC, I worked on the first ServerlessConf with Peter Sbarski (in CC) and Alexis asked if it would be possible to find some knowledgable Serverless folks to start a conversation here in the TOC. This is the beginning of that conversation.
On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 5:17 PM Ryan S. Brown via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Re: The Cloud-Nativity of Serverless
Anthony Skipper <anthony@...>
We would like to see a separate group working on serverless as well. At Galactic Fog we have had a serverless implementation on DCOS for about 6 months, and we plan to release our Kubernetes native implementation in the next couple weeks in the runup to dockercon. From our perspective we would like the following things:
I wouldn't worry to much about the other big vendor stuff right now. Serverless is at such an early stage any R&D done by anyone is really helpful and not really competitive or problematic. (eg Openwhisk has really cool ideas, and Amazon's attempts to standardize lambda portability show an approach that is helpful for discussion) Regards, Anthony
On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Ryan S. Brown via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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The Cloud-Nativity of Serverless
Ryan S. Brown <ryansb@...>
Hello all, I'm Ryan, and I've been interested in FaaS/serverless for a while now. Also CC'd on this message are Ben Kehoe (iRobot) and Peter Sbarski (ServerlessConf/A Cloud Guru). Lately, it seems the open-source interest has been picking up significantly in addition to all the use in the public cloud. Just to name a few FaaS/serverless provider projects: Fission[1] & Funktion[2] on Kubernetes, FaaS[3] on Swarm, and standalone OpenWhisk[4] (primarily IBM-driven). Even Microsoft's Azure Functions is OSS.If haven't heard Amazon&others raising a general ruckus about serverless lately, I sincerely hope your vacation to the backwoods was relaxing. 😁 A cynical observer might say that the MS/IBM efforts are open to help compensate for them starting so late relative to Lambda, but either way the result is a lot of open or nominally open projects in the FaaS/serverless area. And with cloud providers looking to embed their various FaaS deeper into their clouds by integrating their FaaS with cloud-specific events, making their FaaS the way into customizing how their infra reacts to events. 1: http://fission.io/ 2: https://funktion.fabric8.io/ 3: http://blog.alexellis.io/functions-as-a-service/ 4: https://developer.ibm.com/openwhisk/ 5: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/functions/ -- Ryan Brown / Senior Software Engineer / Red Hat, Inc.
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Re: [RESULT] rkt project accepted (incubation)
alexis richardson
Congratulations to the rkt team :)
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On Wed, 29 Mar 2017, 08:55 Chris Aniszczyk via cncf-toc, <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Re: [RESULT] containerd project accepted (incubation)
alexis richardson
Great news, congratulations containerd!
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017, 08:52 Chris Aniszczyk via cncf-toc, <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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[RESULT] rkt project accepted (incubation)
Hey everyone, I'm thrilled to announce that rkt (https://github.com/coreos/rkt) has been accepted as a CNCF incubation level project: https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/33 binding +1 TOC votes (8/9): - Bryan Cantrill: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000764.html - Camille Fournier: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000761.html - Solomon Hykes: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000776.html - Alexis Richardson: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000748.html non-binding +1 community votes: - Randy Abernathy: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000766.html - Gianluca Arbezzano: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000745.html - John Belmaric: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000746.html - Alban Crequy: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000747.html - Ihor Dvoretskyi: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000743.html - Alan Fitzgerald: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000756.html - Clinton Kitson: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000755.html - Robert Lalonde: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000742.html - Eduardo Silva: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000753.html - Yash Thakkar: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000751.html - Duncan Johnston Watt: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000763.html Thanks again to everyone who voted and lets welcome rkt to the CNCF family, we'll be working with them over the next few weeks to give them a new home! Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) | +1-512-961-6719
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[RESULT] containerd project accepted (incubation)
Hey everyone, I'm thrilled to announce that containerd (http://containerd.io/) has been accepted as a CNCF incubation level project: https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/32 binding +1 TOC votes (8/9): - Bryan Cantrill: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000765.html - Camille Fournier: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000760.html - Solomon Hykes: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000775.html - Alexis Richardson: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000728.html non-binding +1 community votes: - Gianluca Arbezzano: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000732.html- Mark Coleman: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000729.html - Ihor Dvoretskyi: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000736.html - Alan Fitzgerald: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000757.html - Clinton Kitson: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000730.html - George Okrokvertskhov: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000738.html- Yash Thakkar: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000734.html - Duncan Johnston Watt: https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-March/000762.html Thanks again to everyone who voted and lets welcome containerd to the CNCF family, we'll be working with them over the next few weeks to give them a new home! Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) | +1-512-961-6719
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Re: [VOTE] rkt project proposal (incubation)
Solomon Hykes
+1
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On Friday, March 24, 2017, Chris Aniszczyk via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] containerd project proposal (incubation)
Solomon Hykes
+1
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Very excited to see this come together.
On Thursday, March 23, 2017, Chris Aniszczyk via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] rkt project proposal (incubation)
Brian Grant
+1
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Chris Aniszczyk via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] containerd project proposal (incubation)
Brian Grant
+1
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 5:58 AM, Chris Aniszczyk via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Re: Changing meeting?
alexis richardson
Aha. Hold that thought please!
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017, 14:39 Jonathan Boulle, <jonathan.boulle@...> wrote:
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Re: Changing meeting?
Jonathan Boulle <jonathan.boulle@...>
My schedule has shifted slightly, so 0800PT Tuesday would work for me.
On 28 March 2017 at 13:25, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote: We got stuck on times of day. Tuesday was the leading candidate, with
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Re: Changing meeting?
alexis richardson
We got stuck on times of day. Tuesday was the leading candidate, with
PT 0800, 0830, 0900 as leading slots. On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Camille Fournier via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@lists.cncf.io> wrote: Were we planning to change the meeting day? What happened to that?
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Changing meeting?
Camille Fournier
Were we planning to change the meeting day? What happened to that?
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Re: Heron
Karthik Ramasamy <kramasamy@...>
Thanks Chris. Apologies for responding late.
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- Heron is designed to be container friendly. Currently we run Heron as a cgroup container in Mesos/Aurora (which is our production environment). - There are already two PRs which extends Heron to use docker so that a Heron job can be run as a collection of docker instances. - While we did just Storm API for Twitter’s needs, Heron design is extensible - in the sense, we can map any API on top of Heron easily. We have a clear distinction between DAG generation and DAG execution. This is the subject of a paper that got accepted in ICDE 2017. Happy to share a copy if needed. - We are also in the process of implementing exactly once (which requires state storage). Current implementations of exactly once is very messy in other streaming systems since they use Hadoop and very difficult to achieve low latency. If Kubernetes supports container portability (with storage), we will be first one to take advantage of it. I know one company that implements containers with storage portability (robinsystems.com). - Heron also runs in AWS in the Fabric division of Twitter (which was acquired by Google) a couple of months ago. We are in the process of making it natively run in ECS (EC2 docker container service) at AWS due to request by a customer. This is pretty straight forward to implement due to extensible design of Heron. - Finally, we published performance numbers for Heron after some simple optimizations. We can do a latency of 20 ms (but in reality we have pushed it 13 ms) and also high throughput. The blog is https://blog.twitter.com/2017/optimizing-twitter-heron. - Heron is the fastest and low latency engine in the market right now and we have another 4-5x to go. Heron provides the price/performance as of now. Let me know if you have any questions. cheers /karthik
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Re: [VOTE] rkt project proposal (incubation)
Alexander Gehr
+1
On 03/26/2017 07:13 PM, Randy Abernethy
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Re: [VOTE] rkt project proposal (incubation)
Randy Abernethy
+1 non binding On 2017-03-24 09:30, Chris Aniszczyk
via cncf-toc wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] containerd project proposal (incubation)
Bryan Cantrill <bryan@...>
+1 - Bryan
On Mar 23, 2017 5:58 AM, "Chris Aniszczyk via cncf-toc" <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] rkt project proposal (incubation)
Bryan Cantrill <bryan@...>
+1 - Bryan
On Mar 24, 2017 9:30 AM, "Chris Aniszczyk via cncf-toc" <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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