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Re: [VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018
alexis richardson
Here is my
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Re: [VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018
Brian Grant
Contributor diversity is not an explicit criterion at the incubation stage:
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 7:58 PM, Dan Kohn <dan@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018
Doug Davis <dug@...>
+1 to keeping it - non-binding I think the biggest concern is that Buoyant continues to dominate development given that other companies are generally making small patches rather than becoming major contributors. Chart: https://linkerd.devstats.cncf.io/dashboard/db/companies-velocity?orgId=1 Please note that non-binding votes are encouraged. -- Dan Kohn <dan@...> Executive Director, Cloud Native Computing Foundation https://www.cncf.io +1-415-233-1000 https://www.dankohn.com On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:24 PM, Duncan Johnston-Watt <duncan.johnstonwatt@...> wrote:
Best Duncan
On 17 January 2018 at 20:59, Brandon Dimcheff via Lists.Cncf.Io <brandon=olark.com@...> wrote: I don't have a vote, but I'd love to see linkerd remain a CNCF project. - brandon On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:20 PM William Morgan <william@...> wrote:
-William On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Brian Grant via Lists.Cncf.Io <briangrant=google.com@...> wrote: Different projects make different design tradeoffs. Also, these 2 projects aren't directly comparable. This article explains the difference pretty well: https://blog.envoyproxy.io/service-mesh-data-plane-vs-control-plane-2774e720f7fc On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> wrote:
https://github.com/cncf/toc/blob/master/PRINCIPLES.md#no-kingmakers--one-size-does-not-fit-all Istio currently isn't an official CNCF project but has been invited to formalize a project proposal. For the merits of one project over another, I'd advise you to speak to the respective project communities for that information. On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Santosa, Andy <asantosa@...> wrote: Hi Chris, Personally, I would like to get clarification of competing component: linkerd vs istio. I learnt for example one company I met in KubeCon converting from linkerd to istio. Regards, -Andy From: <cncf-toc@...> on behalf of Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> Reply-To: "cncf-toc@..." <cncf-toc@...> Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 8:38 AM To: "cncf-toc@..." <cncf-toc@...> Subject: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018 Hey TOC and community, we are requesting a vote to keep linkerd (https://github.com/linkerd/linkerd) as an inception project for another year based on their presentation yesterday. Here are some stats shared yesterday from the linkerd community: * 60+ contributors; 50+ releases (2--4 week cadence); 3400+ GH stars * 1.5m+ Docker Hub pulls; 5--10 billion requests a day * 1400+ Slack members * 40+ companies using Linkerd in production. Public ones include Monzo, CreditKarma, Salesforce, Expedia, BigCommerce, NCBI, PayPal, Taboola, FOX, and AOL * Powers the Human Genome Project! Please vote +1/-1 (remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support). Also note that every inception project has to be reviewed on an annual basis to decide whether it will continue to be a CNCF project or potentially graduate to another level. We will have another discussion in the near future about moving/graduating linkerd to another level, along with other CNCF projects. Thanks! -- Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) | +1-512-961-6719
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Re: [VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018
Dan Kohn <dan@...>
I think the biggest concern is that Buoyant continues to dominate development given that other companies are generally making small patches rather than becoming major contributors. Chart: Please note that non-binding votes are encouraged. -- Dan Kohn <dan@...> Executive Director, Cloud Native Computing Foundation https://www.cncf.io +1-415-233-1000 https://www.dankohn.com
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:24 PM, Duncan Johnston-Watt <duncan.johnstonwatt@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018
Duncan Johnston-Watt <duncan.johnstonwatt@...>
I don't have a binding vote either but I am curious given linkerd's impressive stats why it isn't being promoted? Best Duncan
On 17 January 2018 at 20:59, Brandon Dimcheff via Lists.Cncf.Io <brandon=olark.com@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018
brandon@...
I don't have a vote, but I'd love to see linkerd remain a CNCF project. - brandon
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:20 PM William Morgan <william@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018
William Morgan
FWIW that article is not 100% correct. Linkerd ships with a control plane (Namerd). This is how these companies are controlling routing policy across Linkerd instances. -William
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Brian Grant via Lists.Cncf.Io <briangrant=google.com@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018
Yes, this is simply "let's keep this project going" decision. It's in two steps because I'd like to queue up multiple projects to be reviewed to graduate/move to the next level in one TOC call. I'd also like linkerd to follow the process we've been experimenting with fluentd (https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/69) and coredns (https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/66). That's all.
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:14 PM, alexis richardson <alexis@...> wrote: "Why are we doing this in 2 steps? This is just a "yes, we want to --
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Re: [VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018
alexis richardson
"Why are we doing this in 2 steps? This is just a "yes, we want to
keep the project" decision?" agreed, Chris, what's your thinking here? On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Brian Grant via Lists.Cncf.Io <briangrant=google.com@...> wrote: On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Chris Aniszczyk
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Re: [VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018
Brian Grant
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> wrote:
In general, I'd like to link to devstats dashboards in these types of reviews, so we can see the trajectory. For example:
Why are we doing this in 2 steps? This is just a "yes, we want to keep the project" decision?
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Re: [VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018
Brian Grant
Different projects make different design tradeoffs. Also, these 2 projects aren't directly comparable.
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018
CNCF allows for competing projects, see our TOC principles for more information on this: Istio currently isn't an official CNCF project but has been invited to formalize a project proposal. For the merits of one project over another, I'd advise you to speak to the respective project communities for that information.
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Santosa, Andy <asantosa@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018
Santosa, Andy
Hi Chris,
Personally, I would like to get clarification of competing component: linkerd vs istio. I learnt for example one company I met in KubeCon converting from linkerd to istio.
Regards,
-Andy
From: <cncf-toc@...> on behalf of Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...>
Reply-To: "cncf-toc@..." <cncf-toc@...> Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 8:38 AM To: "cncf-toc@..." <cncf-toc@...> Subject: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018 Hey TOC and community, we are requesting a vote to keep linkerd (https://github.com/linkerd/linkerd)
as an inception project for another year based on their presentation yesterday. Here are some stats shared yesterday from the linkerd community:
* 60+ contributors; 50+ releases (2--4 week cadence); 3400+ GH stars
* 1.5m+ Docker Hub pulls; 5--10 billion requests a day * 1400+ Slack members * 40+ companies using Linkerd in production. Public ones include Monzo, CreditKarma, Salesforce, Expedia, BigCommerce, NCBI, PayPal, Taboola, FOX, and AOL * Powers the Human Genome Project! Please vote +1/-1 (remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support).
Also note that every inception project has to be reviewed on an annual basis to decide whether it will continue to be a CNCF project or potentially graduate to another level. We will have another discussion in the near future about moving/graduating linkerd
to another level, along with other CNCF projects.
Thanks!
Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) | +1-512-961-6719
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[VOTE] linkerd inception project review 2018
Hey TOC and community, we are requesting a vote to keep linkerd (https://github.com/linkerd/linkerd) as an inception project for another year based on their presentation yesterday. Here are some stats shared yesterday from the linkerd community: * 60+ contributors; 50+ releases (2--4 week cadence); 3400+ GH stars * 1.5m+ Docker Hub pulls; 5--10 billion requests a day * 1400+ Slack members * 40+ companies using Linkerd in production. Public ones include Monzo, CreditKarma, Salesforce, Expedia, BigCommerce, NCBI, PayPal, Taboola, FOX, and AOL * Powers the Human Genome Project! Please vote +1/-1 (remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support). Also note that every inception project has to be reviewed on an annual basis to decide whether it will continue to be a CNCF project or potentially graduate to another level. We will have another discussion in the near future about moving/graduating linkerd to another level, along with other CNCF projects. Thanks! Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) | +1-512-961-6719
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Re: Project metadata & calendar
Brian Grant
Good idea
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 5:59 AM alexis richardson <alexis@...> wrote:
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Project metadata & calendar
alexis richardson
Chris, Dan, To Brian's comment - "I think there's an opportunity for help from TOC contributors with these types of reviews, to pre-review the information provided, ask questions about project health and adoption, whether the projects are getting what they need from CNCF, and whatever else we feel is important." I'm thinking that if we want Contributors to help then we could inform them of a project's status and upcoming 'events' via the CNCF website. For example: - fluentd - incubation - graduation review Jan 2018 - last health check [date] - service desk / status [link] a
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 4:30 AM, Brian Grant via Lists.Cncf.Io <briangrant=google.com@...> wrote:
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Re: Graduation review for Fluentd
Brian Grant
The application specifically addressed the graduation criteria, which was helpful. I posted some links to some stats relating to project health and contributor diversity. The incubation criteria also apply at graduation: I think there's an opportunity for help from TOC contributors with these types of reviews, to pre-review the information provided, ask questions about project health and adoption, whether the projects are getting what they need from CNCF, and whatever else we feel is important.
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 7:51 AM, Chris Aniszczyk via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
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TOC Agenda for Jan 16th 2018
First off, happy 2018! Second, here's the deck for tomorrow: https://goo.gl/5wBe3d We plan to cover the existing project proposals + deciding on calling for a vote for the ones that have received enough due diligence. We also will have the linkerd project present a brief year in review which is required on an annual basis for all inception level projects. A vote will then be held by the TOC to decide whether linkerd will move up to incubating or continue operating at inception. See everyone tomorrow! Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) | +1-512-961-6719
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Re: light-4j project proposal
stevehu@...
Thanks Chris for the quick reply. I have booked 30 minutes next Friday morning at 10 am and will have the github issue ready before then.
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:24 AM, Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> wrote:
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Re: light-4j project proposal
Hey Steve, you can book a time with me to chat here about the project proposal process: calendly.com/caniszczyk I also recommend filing a GitHub issue about your project with more information: https://github.com/cncf/toc/issues
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 9:12 PM, <stevehu@...> wrote: Hi, --
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"Dan Kohn" ---01/17/2018 10:58:41 PM---I think the biggest concern is that Buoyant continues to dominate development given that other compa
