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Re: Sandbox projects and timing requirements
Quinton Hoole
To add to what Chris said, and responding directly to:
"since it would be easier to go with sandbox and then jump into incubation, than do direct to incubation (which is harder). “
The above is not the intention at all. Is there any reason you believe that getting to incubation via sandbox is more difficult? If so, we might need to clarify our communication around that.
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From: <cncf-toc@...> on behalf of Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...>
Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 15:10 To: Eduardo Silva <eduardo@...> Cc: CNCF TOC <cncf-toc@...> Subject: Re: [cncf-toc] Sandbox projects and timing requirements
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Re: Sandbox projects and timing requirements
We decided not to put any timelines on anything in the beginning as each project is going to be different at its maturity stage. There are projects that may have decent adoption but low maintainer diversity and so on. The maturity levels are outlined pretty well here: https://github.com/cncf/toc/blob/master/process/graduation_criteria.adoc The particular line "since these metrics can vary significantly depending on the type, scope and size of a project, the TOC has final judgement over the level of activity that is adequate to meet these criteria" was put in place to give the TOC some flexibility in decisions making as they are the final arbiter of maturity level decisions. IMHO I don't think having a minimum time to bake is a bad idea but that is going to be different for each project as some are quicker to mature than others. You're welcome to propose improvements to the sandbox process and discuss it in a PR: https://github.com/cncf/toc/blob/master/process/sandbox.md
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:25 PM Eduardo Silva <eduardo@...> wrote:
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Sandbox projects and timing requirements
Eduardo Silva
Hi, Why Sandbox projects don't have a minimum time of requirement before to try to move to incubation ? I see that Harbor joined as a Sandbox project on July 31 and just after 3 months moving forward to incubation ? To be clear, this is not something against Harbor, but I see a potential "gray area" since it would be easier to go with sandbox and then jump into incubation, than do direct to incubation (which is harder). comments ?
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Re: [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
Igor Mameshin
+1 non-binding
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 6:27 AM Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
Ruben Orduz <ruben@...>
+1 agree to what Justin said.
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Re: [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
Baldwin, Matt
+1 nb
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Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 11:21:01 AM To: Lee Calcote Cc: Chris Aniszczyk; Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc Subject: Re: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
-1 nb
I understand the need for container registries in a containerized environment, but I'm not sold Harbor being the solution for most people's needs when they need to run their own registry.
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Re: [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
Justin Garrison <justinleegarrison@...>
-1 nb I understand the need for container registries in a containerized environment, but I'm not sold Harbor being the solution for most people's needs when they need to run their own registry.
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Re: [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
Lee Calcote
+1 non-binding
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Re: [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
+1 non-binding
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Re: [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
Haining Zhang
+1 non-binding
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Re: [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
alan.fraser@...
+1 non-binding.
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On Behalf Of Chris Aniszczyk
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 2:27 PM To: CNCF TOC Subject: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
The Harbor community has requested to move to the incubation maturity level and believes it has fulfilled the criteria: https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/163
Document that it is being used successfully in production by at least three independent end users which, in the TOC’s judgement, are of adequate quality and scope:
https://github.com/goharbor/harbor/blob/master/ADOPTERS.md
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Re: [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
Liz Rice
+1 non binding
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Re: [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
Quinton Hoole
+1 binding
From:Chris Aniszczyk
To:CNCF TOC,
Date:2018-11-06 06:27:26
Subject:[cncf-toc] [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
The Harbor community has requested to move to the incubation maturity level and believes it has fulfilled the criteria: https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/163
They have also created a presentation on top of the proposal for the community: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1aBQnE96kKatc1_t3E97lJBwiWvL-3GTitojuv-nWMuo/edit?usp=sharing Maintainers of the project are listed in https://github.com/goharbor/harbor/blob/master/OWNERS.md Maintainers are added and removed from the project as per the policies outlined in the project governance: https://github.com/goharbor/community/blob/master/GOVERNANCE.md Demonstrate a substantial ongoing flow of commits and merged contributions: Releases: 7 major releases - https://github.com/goharbor/harbor/releases Roadmap: https://github.com/goharbor/harbor/wiki/Harbor-Roadmap Contributors: https://github.com/goharbor/harbor/graphs/contributors Commit activity: https://github.com/goharbor/harbor/graphs/commit-activity CNCF DevStats: https://harbor.devstats.cncf.io Please vote (+1/0/-1) by replying to this thread; the full proposal located here: https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/163 Remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support! -- Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) | +1-512-961-6719
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Re: [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
sonya@...
+1 binding
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Re: [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:13 AM Ken Owens <kenchristineowens@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
Jimmy Song <jimmysong@...>
+1 non-binding
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Re: [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
Ken Owens
+1 binding
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:27 AM Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
Benjamin Hindman
+1 binding
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 6:27 AM Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
Randy Abernethy
+1 nb
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 6:27 AM Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] Harbor moving to incubation
alexis richardson
+1 binding
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:27 PM Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> wrote:
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