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No CNCF Tech Writers Office Hours for December

Nate Waddington
 

Hello Everyone,

We usually host a CNCF Tech Writers Office Hours on the last Wednesday of every month. However, this month this lands between Christmas and New Year, so we’ll cancel this month’s Office Hours. Happy holidays everyone; see you next year!

Cheers,
Nate Waddington

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The Linux Foundation

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Re: Notary V2 re-review / removal from the CNCF?

Davanum Srinivas
 

Justin,

Threads on email tend to rot out for this purpose. Could you please open an issue similar to [1]. Please add pointers to any previous public discussions (If i remember correctly, you had raised this before?)

Also, please remember that we may not see much traffic until folks come back in Jan. 

thanks,
Dims


On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 1:05 PM Justin Cappos <justincappos@...> wrote:
As I understand it, the TOC is starting to review projects with a consideration to reassess their level in the CNCF or even to remove them altogether.  I wanted to bring the Notary V2 project to the TOC's attention as a project that is misplaced and worthy of review.

First of all, the original Notary V1 project was added by the CNCF and was voted in both because it had a strong security foundation and a substantial user base.  

Strangely, the Notary V2 project has none of the original Notary project members, none of the lines of code from Notary V1, and none of the security design.  It is effectively a completely different project that has taken the same name in order to preserve the incubating status in the CNCF.  Even worse, it is at incubation level and making use of CNCF resources / marketing / reputation, yet has had no security reviews, etc.

I would kindly suggest that the TOC consider either removing Notary V2 from the CNCF or asking it to reapply to the CNCF.

Notary V1 (the original) likely could also plausibly be archived or reviewed at some point, but this is of less urgency as it did actually receive due diligence at some point.

I know I raised the same concern back in July 2021, but after talking with others in the community I thought it was worth raising again.  As transparency is an important part of open source foundations and projects, after raising this issue a week ago to the TOC privately, I am now making this request public.

Thanks,
Justin



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Notary V2 re-review / removal from the CNCF?

Justin Cappos <justincappos@...>
 

As I understand it, the TOC is starting to review projects with a consideration to reassess their level in the CNCF or even to remove them altogether.  I wanted to bring the Notary V2 project to the TOC's attention as a project that is misplaced and worthy of review.

First of all, the original Notary V1 project was added by the CNCF and was voted in both because it had a strong security foundation and a substantial user base.  

Strangely, the Notary V2 project has none of the original Notary project members, none of the lines of code from Notary V1, and none of the security design.  It is effectively a completely different project that has taken the same name in order to preserve the incubating status in the CNCF.  Even worse, it is at incubation level and making use of CNCF resources / marketing / reputation, yet has had no security reviews, etc.

I would kindly suggest that the TOC consider either removing Notary V2 from the CNCF or asking it to reapply to the CNCF.

Notary V1 (the original) likely could also plausibly be archived or reviewed at some point, but this is of less urgency as it did actually receive due diligence at some point.

I know I raised the same concern back in July 2021, but after talking with others in the community I thought it was worth raising again.  As transparency is an important part of open source foundations and projects, after raising this issue a week ago to the TOC privately, I am now making this request public.

Thanks,
Justin


Re: Sandbox Inclusion Results from December 13, 2022

Davanum Srinivas
 

Thanks Amye

Folks, if you have questions after watching the discussion in recording, please drop a note on email or slack (privately or publicly - https://github.com/cncf/toc#mailing-list)

-- Dims


On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 12:59 PM Amye Scavarda Perrin <ascavarda@...> wrote:
The TOC met today to discuss the following sandbox proposals:
Passes with a majority vote of the TOC:
Merbridge
DevSpace
Capsule
zot
Paralus
Carina
ko

Passes with a majority vote of the TOC with conditions:
Open Policy Registry (OPCR) - service and product would need to be
renamed on acceptance
werf - several project forks need to realign with upstream
Kubescape - service and product would need to be renamed on acceptance

Projects not included
Goblet: Reapply with an more robust multivendor ecosystem
ViveNAS: Reapply with a larger community
Devbox: Unclear how this connects with the cloud native ecosystem,
reapply showing stronger connection
Kepler: reapply with more clarity about what is being contributed
Slime: reapply with project roadmap, match update cadence with
Kubernetes and consider a more robust multivendor ecosystem
Talos Linux - reapply with more technical details + clarification
around how this connects with the cloud native ecosystem


The recording is available here: https://youtu.be/558604kpBSE

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Sandbox Inclusion Results from December 13, 2022

Amye Scavarda Perrin
 

The TOC met today to discuss the following sandbox proposals:
Passes with a majority vote of the TOC:
Merbridge
DevSpace
Capsule
zot
Paralus
Carina
ko

Passes with a majority vote of the TOC with conditions:
Open Policy Registry (OPCR) - service and product would need to be
renamed on acceptance
werf - several project forks need to realign with upstream
Kubescape - service and product would need to be renamed on acceptance

Projects not included
Goblet: Reapply with an more robust multivendor ecosystem
ViveNAS: Reapply with a larger community
Devbox: Unclear how this connects with the cloud native ecosystem,
reapply showing stronger connection
Kepler: reapply with more clarity about what is being contributed
Slime: reapply with project roadmap, match update cadence with
Kubernetes and consider a more robust multivendor ecosystem
Talos Linux - reapply with more technical details + clarification
around how this connects with the cloud native ecosystem


The recording is available here: https://youtu.be/558604kpBSE

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🚨 Action Required | New addition to the landscape needs maintainer input!

Catherine Paganini
 

Dear Maintainers and Project Owners,

 

The Cloud Native Landscape will soon get a new section: The CNCF Project Summary Table. The goal of the summary table is to provide end users with more context, so they can better assess which projects to evaluate further. We would like to invite you to participate to ensure the table reflects your project in its best light! 

 

As you'll see, some fields already have data in them. This is pulled directly from the CNCF's landscape.yml that powers the landscape, as well as your project's GitHub repositories. But because we want to provide end users with more information than the landscape provides, we need projects to submit a PR and fill in the gaps. For an example of how the populated table might look, view our PoC here.

What to do

Please update the fields listed here. Note that the tags are key and must be meaningful to help end users evaluate your project

 

We plan to announce the Project Summary Table early next year and would like your project’s information up to date by December 31. Once the table is more or less complete, there will be a way to navigate from the landscape directly to this page.

How

Please follow these instructions. They provide the location of landscape.yml and guidance on updating it. You may use your current/traditional process for raising a PR against the CNCF landscape.yml or take advantage of a new web UI available for the landscape.

Why

Our ecosystem is growing, and the Landscape initiative is evolving to maximize your project's profile amongst end-users who are new to cloud native. To learn more about this project (e.g., the why, problem statement, and goals), please refer to this document.

If you have questions, reach out via Slack to Catherine Paganini, Simon Forster, or Richard Collins, and they can guide you through this process. The CNCF is here to help, so please use this team to ensure your project is promoted properly.


Thank you,

The CNCF Business Value Subcommittee Team


Catherine Paganini

Head of Marketing and Community

Buoyant, creators of Linkerd

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[RESULT] Argo approved for graduation

Amye Scavarda Perrin
 

Argo has been approved for graduation: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7674
11/11
Emily Fox: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7676
Davanum Srinivas: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7677
Lei Zhang: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7679
Cathy Zhang: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7682
Dave Zolotusky: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7683
Ricardo Rocha: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7687
Matt Farina: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7690
Justin Cormack: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7692
Katie Gamanji: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7701
Erin Boyd: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7710
Richard Hartmann: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7721

Wojtek Cichoń: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7675
Chaohui He: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7678
Deepthi Sigireddi: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7680
Hong Wang: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7681
Karena Angell: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7684
Jesse Suen: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7685
Christopher Adigun: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7686
Daniel Deeney: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7688
Alexander Matyushentsev: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7689
Arul Jegadish: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7691
Chris Short: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7693
Ken Sipe: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7694
Brad McCoy: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7695
Christopher Pisano: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7696
Marky Jackson: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7697
Mike Bowen: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7698
Somik Behera: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7699
Sunny Raskar: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7700
Carlos Tadeu Panato Jr: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7702
Archy K: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7703
Alena Prokharchyk: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7704
Rajesh Reddy Nachireddi: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7705
David Caro: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7706
Julien Senon: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7707
Alolita Sharma: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7708
Leonardo Grasso: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7709
Matthew Schillerstrom: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7716
Jianbo Sun: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7717
Ismaël Hommani: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7718
Vasu Chandrasekhara: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7720
Nedyalko Dobrev: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7725
ApeCloud Marketing: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7730
Manish Kapur: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7731
dimitar.kapashikov: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7732
Herve LeClerc: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7733
Hao Weng: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7734
Philippe Robin: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7735
Daniel Deeney: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7736

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Re: [VOTE] Argo for graduation

Lyubomir Angelov
 

+1 NB

Lyubomir Angelov
SAP


Re: Agenda for 12/6

Richard Hartmann
 

That would be 0100 local for me this week; I need to skip, sorry.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:01 PM Amye Scavarda Perrin
<ascavarda@...> wrote:

Hi all,

We'll be meeting tomorrow at 8am Pacific with TAG updates.
Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jpoKT12jf2jTf-2EJSAl4iTdA7Aoj_uiI19qIaECNFc/edit#
Presentation: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/12VuinW4H7N7PjIMPAGY5Vh2h6-r15ew7ISamGcAxa24/edit?userstoinvite=m.koerbaecher@reply.de&actionButton=1#slide=id.g25ca91f87f_0_0

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Agenda for 12/6

Amye Scavarda Perrin
 


Proposal: add governance review requirement to Graduating DD

Josh Berkus
 

TOC,

Proposal here: https://github.com/cncf/toc/issues/963

Can discuss at tommorrow's meeting.

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Kubernetes Community Architect
OSPO, OCTO


Re: [VOTE] Argo for graduation

Daniel Deeney
 

+1 NB

Daniel Deeney | Co-Founder & CEO
m: 908.343.3622 | www.paladincloud.io



On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 3:18 AM Hao Weng <wenghao@...> wrote:
+1 NB

On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 4:03 PM dimitar.kapashikov via lists.cncf.io <dimitar.kapashikov=sap.com@...> wrote:
+1 NB


Re: [VOTE] Argo for graduation

Philippe Robin
 

+1 NB

 

From: cncf-toc@... <cncf-toc@...> On Behalf Of Amye Scavarda Perrin via lists.cncf.io
Sent: 23 November 2022 18:28
To: CNCF TOC <cncf-toc@...>
Subject: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] Argo for graduation

 

Argo has applied for graduation.
- PR: https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/604
- DD: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R4WjMG9s9JX8onZvOzEFSjBBFAInurN8tSiAFLqj-FE
Lei Zhang and Cathy Zhang are the TOC sponsors and have approved a call for a public vote. (https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7611)

Please vote (+1/0/-1) by replying to this thread.

Remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support!

 

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Re: [VOTE] Argo for graduation

Hao Weng
 

+1 NB

On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 4:03 PM dimitar.kapashikov via lists.cncf.io <dimitar.kapashikov=sap.com@...> wrote:
+1 NB


Re: [VOTE] Argo for graduation

Herve LECLERC
 


+1 NB

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Re: [VOTE] Argo for graduation

dimitar.kapashikov@...
 

+1 NB


Re: [VOTE] Argo for graduation

Manish Kapur
 

+1 NB


Re: [VOTE] Argo for graduation

ApeCloud Marketing
 

+1 NB 🥳

From: "Amye Scavarda Perrin"<ascavarda@...>
Date: Thu, Nov 24, 2022, 02:28
Subject: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] Argo for graduation
To: "CNCF TOC"<cncf-toc@...>
Argo has applied for graduation.
- PR: https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/604
- DD: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R4WjMG9s9JX8onZvOzEFSjBBFAInurN8tSiAFLqj-FE
Lei Zhang and Cathy Zhang are the TOC sponsors and have approved a call for a public vote. (https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7611)

Please vote (+1/0/-1) by replying to this thread.

Remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support!

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Re: [Proposed] NEW CNCF TAG Environmental Sustainability Tech Lead

Ricardo Rocha
 

+1 binding

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 11:40:17AM -0500, Matt Farina via lists.cncf.io wrote:
+1 binding

On Wed, Nov 16, 2022, at 3:12 PM, Marlow Weston wrote:
Hello TOC,

The TAG Environmental Sustainability co-chairs would like to propose Cara Delia as a TAG Technical lead. She has been incredibly helpful with many items since before the formation of the TAG, and it would be a great benefit to have her. For those unfamiliar with her, a brief bio is below.

Bio: Cara is a Principal Community Architect for Financial Services and Sustainability at Red Hat. Her role is to advocate open source principles and contribute to external open source communities. She speaks with customers, regulators and other vendors across the world regularly to better understand the challenges and opportunities that sustainability presents.
She has contributed to several open source foundations and communities but the two main ones are the Fintech Open Source Foundation (FINOS) and OS-Climate. In FINOS, She also contributes to the Open Source Readiness SIG, the Compliant Financial Infrastructure and also sit on the technical steering committee. She was a key contributor in bringing OS-Climate to the Linux Foundation as a project. In addition, 50% of her time was dedicated to the project to stand up the community with governance, policies, community calendar- including meeting cadences, agenda creation and other administrative aspects that support the community strategy for growing member engagement. Internally at Red Hat, Cara is a leader in the Climate Change Community of Practice specifically for the Open Source Sustainable Technology work stream.

The TAG chairs are available for any questions.

Many thanks,
--Marlow




[RESULT] Flux approved for graduation

Amye Scavarda Perrin
 

Flux has been approved for graduation: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7614
8/11 +1 Binding
Matt Farina: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7619
Lei Zhang: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7625
Cathy Zhang: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7635
Emily Fox: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7636
Davanum Srinivas:  https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7662
Richard Hartmann: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7666
Ricardo Rocha: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7669
Justin Cormack: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7670

Daniel Holbach: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7615
Herve Leclerc: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7616
Christopher Pisano: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7617
Steve Lasker: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7618
Karena Angell: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7620
Daniel Deeney: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7621
Jeff Billimek: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7622
Tamal Saha:https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7623
Brendan Burns: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7624
Joe Beda: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7626
Jorge Vargas: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7627
Batuhan Apaydin: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7628
Chaohui He: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7629
Chris Short: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7630
Nicolas Vermandé: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7631
Christian Berendt: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7632
Jay Pipes: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7633
Alena Prokharchyk: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7637
Hongcai Ren: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7638
ApeCloud Marketing: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7639
Bob Wise: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7640
Furkan Türkal: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7641
Ismaël Hommani: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7642
Liz Rice: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7643
Carlos Tadeu Panato Jr: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7644
Philippe Robin: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7645
Thomas Schuetz: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7646
Rajib Mitra: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7647
Alex Chircop: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7648
Rod Navarro: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7649
Simon Pearce: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7650
Alois Reitbauer: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7651
Brian Grant: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7652
bjdavidsond: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7653
Christopher Adigun:  https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7655
Mike Bowen: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7656
Vasu Chandrasekhara: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7657
Roberth Strand: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7658
Andrés Vega: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7661
Brad McCoy: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7663
Ken Sipe: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7664
Patrik Majer: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7665
Nick Chase:  https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7667
Srinath Perera: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7668
Franco Geraci: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7671
Joel Zamboni: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7672
Matthieu DUFOURNEAUD: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/7673

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