Big +1 on this request from Brian, particularly from the perspective of MAAS (Metal as a Service), as well as OpenStack, VMware, et al. Those all definitely make more logical sense at the base level,

Coming back to this: Please move Openstack, VMWare, and the other private cloud platforms back to the bottom. Bare metal should be side by side with public clouds, not in the provisioning

If it would be useful I'd like to introduce the periodic table of cloud native elements I've been driving with several of our members. It's intend is to provide an elemental view of cloud outcomes,

Can we make the 2-D one more generic with drill downs for the online version that articulate all the products? I love that it highlights choices, but it should be able to provide an illustrative

Personally I think it highlights the freedom of choice. Yes it is complex and there are many decisions to make but don't we have to do that with any complex architecture we are trying to build? I

Thanks to everyone for their support, and especially to Chris and Alexis for helping out with the process, and to Bryan for being our sponsor. We're excited to join the community and work with all

Many thanks for everyone's efforts on bringing Jaeger into the CNCF fold! Congrats to the Jaeger team and to CNCF TOC for taking this step! Diane -- Kind Regards, Diane Mueller Director, Community

Welcome!

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And congrats Jaeger!

To some extent I agree with Brian, and it's not the message we want to send, but the reality is that this is the state of our industry. I can't tell you how many "ecosystem" slides I've seen over the

Thanks Chris, Alexis, and CNCF community! Looking forward to working with everyone. -- Matt Klein Software Engineer mklein@...

Hey everyone, I'm happy to announce that Jaeger has been accepted as a CNCF incubation level project (sponsored by Bryan): https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/42 +1 TOC binding votes (6 / 9): Alexis:

Congratulations Envoy!

Hey everyone, I'm happy to announce that Envoy has been accepted as a CNCF incubation level project (sponsored by Alexis): https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/43 +1 TOC binding votes (7 / 9): Alexis:

We could show layers and buckets and existing cncf projects Out of scope buckets could be greyed out.

Fwiw I actually find the product examples useful for being specific about the various boxes. I think it's a hard balance to strike : giving useful concrete examples without trying to be complete will

While it made a lot of progress, I think this diagram still mainly serves marketing i.e. “We are cloud-native” We didn’t tackle the loaded question of what cloud-native is, but IMO it’s

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The article is: https://diginomica.com/2017/09/11/docker-loses-first-mover-advantage-kubernetes/ I'm certainly aware of the complexity argument. But when weighed against the ability to shape the