Hi Quinton and MIchael, You are both correct. SAFE WG started as a group separate from CNCF. Many early members joined the group with the assumption that the goal of the group was to become a CNCF

Hi Michael That's not accurate, or at least not my understanding, nor what's documented in the SAFE minutes. Specifically: The minutes of 2018-04-13 say: Agenda: NOTE: Today's session will be

Thanks Liz That definitely explains some of the potential confusion in the past few weeks. But it's worth noting that the lack of delivery of the white paper dates back much further than that. See

Hi Quinton, This is in large part down to me! The chairs asked me for guidance on their priorities at the point where they were formally accepted as a SIG. I suggested focusing on getting some

The SAFE WG was an independent group (as I always understood it) that was NOT under the auspices of the CNCF or the CNCF TOC until very recently. Over those last 10 months, there's been much debate

Hi Dmitri, here’s a write-up: https://github.com/cncf/toc/blob/master/sigs/cncf-sigs.md To everyone: there was a similar-ish question a week or two ago about the roles of user groups, TOC, working

See here: https://github.com/cncf/toc/blob/master/sigs/cncf-sigs.md Also a document of how they different from Kubernetes

Hi, my name is Dimitri Mitropoulos and I'm an engineer at Weaveworks. I was talking to my friends the other day about the cool CNCF SIGs that I'd heard mentioned. Later I tried to find a description

A quick follow-up to the discussion in today's TOC meeting regarding being clear about the TOC's expectations of deliverables from SIGs (and working groups). Here is the discussion I had 10 months ago

Thank you! Talk to you tomorrow, Erin -- Erin A. Boyd Senior Principal Software Engineer, OCTO Red Hat

I'll make this more clear but it's easier if we have projects just put forth a formal project proposal and then request a community presentation slot. The barrier is a bit higher to entry to do so but

Hello TOC, I have an additional item to add to the backlog (Strimzi): https://github.com/cncf/toc/issues/138 So there was a transition period for Sandbox last Fall where we decided that they didn't

We will be meeting

Hey all, just to let you know we published the conference transparency report for Barcelona:

I was a bit confused over all these different types of groups. We have special interest groups, work groups, user groups, technical steering committees, technical oversight committees, not to mention

Hi Erin, hi Frederick, I hope it goes without saying that I’m all for people coming together to collaborate! And there is precedent - for example the group of folks who got together as SAFE has now

Hi Liz & Cheryl, I think what we hope to accomplish from a SIG is a more open dialogue for users/developers to really come together and get work done. I know there is some concerns over past

Hi Frederick, As Liz said, user groups don't fall under the TOC, and the Telecom and Financial Services groups have grown more or less organically. Philosophically, end users find it easier to

I'll do it, I've cc'd some of the maintainers here for awareness and will do a separate intro. https://github.com/open-telemetry/community/blob/master/community-members.md -- Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) |

Hi TOC, Drew, from our Reliability and Observability team, just reached out to me asking for some contacts on the OpenTelemetry project. He said that they are looking to figure out how we can get