Excuse my ignorance here - but I thought Istio wasn't a CNCF project? Is there an official statement anywhere on where Istio landed? I am confused why I am seeing Istio threads like this if it's not a

Josh, feel free to highlight the negative aspects of Istio's history and governance on another thread. I may well join you. But please let's also give them credit for moving forward with

The Istio SC is a serious political problem, and the project has ongoing governance issues. Why would we want to emulate this with CNCF projects? An SC can be useful to a project that is large

+1 binding -alena.

I am glad to see the discussion started. I've done a lot of governance work on various projects and am happy to help in any way I can.

Good points Matt. Helm is well run and provides a useful model of one successful pattern. I don't think there is one true governance rule for who is on the SC. IMHO it is critical to include non

The Helm project has a similar model in its governance. There is a separation between Org Maintainers and Project Maintainers. The Org Maintainers are responsible for the project but not the technical

I think it's good for both vendors and end users.

Good comments Joe. I also don't adore every aspect of the Istio model. eg I agree that "credit for contributions accrue to companies, not individuals" isn't optimal. But I still like what they are

It is great to see a model that limits the influence of a single vendor. The explicit split between coding and non-coding contributions is.. interesting. One big difference worth calling out is

Seems like a very good approach to me. Q

Hi TOC community I saw this news and wanted to highlight it. With kubecon behind us and apparently summer too, perhaps we can revisit the Steering Committee

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+1 binding. -alena.

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Hello TOC, OpenTelemetry’s annual review can be found here:https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/515 Please let us know if you have any questions. Thank you, Constance

Cortex has been approved for incubation.(https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/315) 8/11 Katie Gamanji: https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/5035 Xiang Li:

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