Erin, Might I suggest a 3rd alternative reason. The sandbox process used to be fairly simple for the TOC and those bringing the process in. It had it's pitfalls (e.g., finding TOC members as sponsors

I just want to clarify a few points... I believe in the idea of a sandbox. But what are we trying to solve by changing this process? 1) Are we trying to solve the operation efficiency of the TOC by

What Alexis said. It's not always reasonable/possible to only go off of what use is publicly mentioned. Granted, this really comes back to the quality of production use being "at the discretion of the

If a big production user will provide a testimonial for DD purposes, it is acceptable for them to request that it not be made public. If so then the TOC (who vote) can see it to verify that the

Hi Matt, TOC Just starting another thread as this is not related to Contour. I was under the impression that only the public Adopter.md will be considered. Are there any guidelines on when TOC will

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Matt and Alexis, Thank you for the answers you both clarify a lot. I’ll propose couple additions to the doc it seems like we might have to add some references to the Sandbox project that might help

Angel, I'll give my 2 cents in reverse order.... What makes something a sandbox project is different from the process to be accepted. So, this touches on something semantically different. The process

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Please read the definition and state whether you are confused by it, or think someone else would be. Then please suggest changes. https://github.com/cncf/toc/blob/master/process/sandbox.md For

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I might be missing something but there is some items still not clear in Sandbox which I think generates confusion. 1. Sandbox projects should be early-stage projects that the CNCF TOC believes warrant

😊. For the end users, this is simple – IMHO your all making this much harder than it needs to be☹ Ken Owens Vice President Software Development Engineering Mastercard

Yes - this. We do have a definition, but Sandbox is still a source of many misunderstandings. Only the Landscape causes even more confusion.

Alois, I'd like to dig a little deeper on one thing you brought up. Specifically: Sandbox is defined in https://github.com/cncf/toc/blob/master/process/sandbox.md. What is missing from the definition

I also want to chime in with my experience on both sides as a SIG chair and somebody involved in a project submission. Before that I want to point out that I really appreciate the effort that Liz

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