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Re: CubeFS (formerly ChubaoFS) Incubation Proposal - Public Comment

coderlxl@...
 

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Re: CubeFS (formerly ChubaoFS) Incubation Proposal - Public Comment

常亮(leonchang)
 

+1 NB


CubeFS (formerly ChubaoFS) Incubation Proposal - Public Comment

Lei Zhang
 

Hi all,

We are opening the public comment period for the proposal of CubeFS (formerly ChubaoFS) to progress at the CNCF as an Incubating project.

- TOC PR proposal: https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/586
- Presentation to CNCF TAG: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1TuBXEmGTSE5wLXOi5rA1FmpT-Nxj5afzI3snamQUWx0/edit
- GitHub: https://github.com/cubeFS/cubefs

Due Diligence doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WDJEeRDO8pHAetyCbU7TftZfvxSATc3bsLj7VJeNoJ0/edit#

Thanks,

Lei Zhang (Harry)


CNCF Tech Writers Office Hours (March)

Nate Waddington <nwaddington@...>
 

Hello Everyone,

Sorry for the late notice!

On the last Wednesday of every month, and in this case, today, we host a CNCF Tech Writers Office Hours. Projects are welcome to drop in and chat with the Tech Docs team about any documentation questions they might have.

Wed March 30 10:00am - 10:50am (PST) — this starts in about 45 minutes from when this email was sent.

https://tockify.com/cncf.public.events/detail/270/1648659600000

Hope to see you there!

Cheers,
Nate.


Re: Proposal TAG Sustainability

Jaime Magiera
 

I’d be interested in contributing to this TAG, whatever the name will be. 

Jaime Magiera
DevOps Engineer Senior
ICPSR

"If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people together to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea." 
-- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

On Mar 19, 2022, at 8:06 AM, Max Koerbaecher <max@...> wrote:

Dear TOC,

we would like to propose you a new TAG. 

Sustainability is a growing and important topic and can be done effectively only if everyone delivers their part to it. The data centers' global energy consumption, and therefore the reason for CO2 emission, is around 2%. That maybe doesn't sound a lot but is equivalent to Canada or Germany, and is also bigger than the emissions caused by airplanes. 

At the same time, open source gets relevant momentum and can be found in many system implementations or is the foundation modern systems are built on. That's why we would like to propose you the TAG Sustainability. We as a community can lay the foundation for sustainable software, sustainable open source projects and best practices to deliver our part for a positive change in the future.

Please find our proposal here:

We would be more than happy to discuss this with you in the next TOC about the TAG. By questions feel free to reach out to us.

Best regards
Max


TOC Liaisons for TAGs update

Davanum Srinivas
 

Folks,

After the recent elections (for TOC), we have updated the table here:

thanks,
Dims

--
Davanum Srinivas :: https://twitter.com/dims


Re: Proposal TAG Sustainability

Ricardo Aravena
 


It's a great initiative.

It would be good to understand if there are any projects that would fall in the scope of the proposed TAG.  I also wonder if those types of projects have an overlap with FinOps.

The part that deals with creating standards and guidelines for the reduction of the CO₂ footprint of the projects and data centers appears more like a working group to me. 

Additionally, to echo Bob's comment, the use of the 'sustainability' term is a bit confusing. Is it related to long term sustainability of the project itself?  Or is it related to sustainability of data centers and reducing the CO₂ footprint?

My two cents.

Thanks,
Ricardo


On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 12:31 PM Josh Berkus <jberkus@...> wrote:
On 3/22/22 06:14, Bob Killen wrote:
> I would also recommend a potentially different name than sustainability
> or expand it to something like environmental-sustainability. I know it
> aligns with the effort, but in OSS, "sustainability" is associated much
> more with contributor or project health than environmental/economic
> impact. I could see significant confusion otherwise =/

Given that this proposal has to do with environmental sustainability, I
don't see a place for it in Contributor Strategy.

I agree that the name should be workshopped to avoid that confusion in
the future.

--
-- Josh Berkus
    TAG Contributor Strategy Co-Chair







Re: Proposal TAG Sustainability

Josh Berkus
 

On 3/22/22 06:14, Bob Killen wrote:
I would also recommend a potentially different name than sustainability or expand it to something like environmental-sustainability. I know it aligns with the effort, but in OSS, "sustainability" is associated much more with contributor or project health than environmental/economic impact. I could see significant confusion otherwise =/
Given that this proposal has to do with environmental sustainability, I don't see a place for it in Contributor Strategy.

I agree that the name should be workshopped to avoid that confusion in the future.

--
-- Josh Berkus
TAG Contributor Strategy Co-Chair


Re: Proposal TAG Sustainability

Max Koerbaecher <max@...>
 

Thank you Bob!
We discussed the wording for some time and wanted to keep it simple. However, I believe we can find the right prefix for it.

But, I have to disagree that sustainability, as a concept, has something to do with the TAG Contributor Strategy. I know it is written as the statement for the TAG, but I understand it as just for its word, and could be replaced with "we want to sponsor a long-lasting relationship with our contributors". On the other hand, throwing sustainability and ICT, cloud, computing, software into a search engine, will point you always to topics of energy consumption, computing effectiveness, and CO2 outputs.  

I believe this could start as a WG. But "Sustainability" scratches on a huge variety of topics that could be broken down into different WG. 

Am Di., 22. März 2022 um 14:14 Uhr schrieb Bob Killen <killen.bob@...>:

I applaud the effort, but if this is contributor focused, would it make more sense to be a working group under TAG Contributor Strategy? or potentially an independent working group? - "The end result of a working group may be a new project proposal, landscape, whitepaper or even a report detailing their findings. The intention of working groups is not to host a full project or specification[1]".

I would also recommend a potentially different name than sustainability or expand it to something like environmental-sustainability. I know it aligns with the effort, but in OSS, "sustainability" is associated much more with contributor or project health than environmental/economic impact. I could see significant confusion otherwise =/

Cheers,
- Bob


On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 5:55 AM Chris Short via lists.cncf.io <chris=chrisshort.net@...> wrote:
Oh cool!
He/Him/His
TZ=America/Detroit


On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 9:49 AM Max Koerbaecher <max@...> wrote:
Dear TOC,

we would like to propose you a new TAG. 

Sustainability is a growing and important topic and can be done effectively only if everyone delivers their part to it. The data centers' global energy consumption, and therefore the reason for CO2 emission, is around 2%. That maybe doesn't sound a lot but is equivalent to Canada or Germany, and is also bigger than the emissions caused by airplanes. 

At the same time, open source gets relevant momentum and can be found in many system implementations or is the foundation modern systems are built on. That's why we would like to propose you the TAG Sustainability. We as a community can lay the foundation for sustainable software, sustainable open source projects and best practices to deliver our part for a positive change in the future.

Please find our proposal here:

We would be more than happy to discuss this with you in the next TOC about the TAG. By questions feel free to reach out to us.

Best regards
Max


Re: Proposal TAG Sustainability

Wojtek Cichoń
 

+1 for change to for example "Climate sustainability"?

Re: Contributor-focused. I think this goes a lot further than just contributing code. First, we need to raise awareness of the issue and make sure that the outcomes of the TAG overlap with the product and business goals, so a lot of internal/external comms will be involved.
All the best!


Re: Proposal TAG Sustainability

Bob Killen
 

I applaud the effort, but if this is contributor focused, would it make more sense to be a working group under TAG Contributor Strategy? or potentially an independent working group? - "The end result of a working group may be a new project proposal, landscape, whitepaper or even a report detailing their findings. The intention of working groups is not to host a full project or specification[1]".

I would also recommend a potentially different name than sustainability or expand it to something like environmental-sustainability. I know it aligns with the effort, but in OSS, "sustainability" is associated much more with contributor or project health than environmental/economic impact. I could see significant confusion otherwise =/

Cheers,
- Bob


On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 5:55 AM Chris Short via lists.cncf.io <chris=chrisshort.net@...> wrote:
Oh cool!
He/Him/His
TZ=America/Detroit


On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 9:49 AM Max Koerbaecher <max@...> wrote:
Dear TOC,

we would like to propose you a new TAG. 

Sustainability is a growing and important topic and can be done effectively only if everyone delivers their part to it. The data centers' global energy consumption, and therefore the reason for CO2 emission, is around 2%. That maybe doesn't sound a lot but is equivalent to Canada or Germany, and is also bigger than the emissions caused by airplanes. 

At the same time, open source gets relevant momentum and can be found in many system implementations or is the foundation modern systems are built on. That's why we would like to propose you the TAG Sustainability. We as a community can lay the foundation for sustainable software, sustainable open source projects and best practices to deliver our part for a positive change in the future.

Please find our proposal here:

We would be more than happy to discuss this with you in the next TOC about the TAG. By questions feel free to reach out to us.

Best regards
Max


Re: TOC Election Results for the TOC chosen seat

alexis richardson
 

+1

On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:41 PM Erin Boyd <eboyd@...> wrote:
Welcome back, Katie!

On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 9:58 AM Katie Gamanji <gamanjie@...> wrote:
Thank you all for the warm welcome!

Also, thank you for all of your hard work Alena! It's been great to have you as a community leader in the cloud native space.

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 9:21 AM Richard Hartmann <richih@...> wrote:
Thanks a _lot_, Alena!

Welcome (back), Katie :)





--

Erin A. Boyd

Director of Emerging Technologies OCTO

Distinguished Engineer

Red Hat

eboyd@...   


Re: TOC Election Results for the TOC chosen seat

Erin Boyd
 

Welcome back, Katie!

On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 9:58 AM Katie Gamanji <gamanjie@...> wrote:
Thank you all for the warm welcome!

Also, thank you for all of your hard work Alena! It's been great to have you as a community leader in the cloud native space.

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 9:21 AM Richard Hartmann <richih@...> wrote:
Thanks a _lot_, Alena!

Welcome (back), Katie :)





--

Erin A. Boyd

Director of Emerging Technologies OCTO

Distinguished Engineer

Red Hat

eboyd@...   


Re: TOC Election Results for the TOC chosen seat

Katie Gamanji
 

Thank you all for the warm welcome!

Also, thank you for all of your hard work Alena! It's been great to have you as a community leader in the cloud native space.


On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 9:21 AM Richard Hartmann <richih@...> wrote:
Thanks a _lot_, Alena!

Welcome (back), Katie :)






Re: Proposal TAG Sustainability

Chris Short
 

Oh cool!
He/Him/His
TZ=America/Detroit


On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 9:49 AM Max Koerbaecher <max@...> wrote:
Dear TOC,

we would like to propose you a new TAG. 

Sustainability is a growing and important topic and can be done effectively only if everyone delivers their part to it. The data centers' global energy consumption, and therefore the reason for CO2 emission, is around 2%. That maybe doesn't sound a lot but is equivalent to Canada or Germany, and is also bigger than the emissions caused by airplanes. 

At the same time, open source gets relevant momentum and can be found in many system implementations or is the foundation modern systems are built on. That's why we would like to propose you the TAG Sustainability. We as a community can lay the foundation for sustainable software, sustainable open source projects and best practices to deliver our part for a positive change in the future.

Please find our proposal here:

We would be more than happy to discuss this with you in the next TOC about the TAG. By questions feel free to reach out to us.

Best regards
Max


Re: Proposal TAG Sustainability

Wojtek Cichoń
 

Great initiative! I would love to get involved.
Best regards,
W.

On Sat Mar 19, 2022, 12:06 PM GMT, Max Koerbaecher wrote:
Dear TOC,

we would like to propose you a new TAG. 

Sustainability is a growing and important topic and can be done effectively only if everyone delivers their part to it. The data centers' global energy consumption, and therefore the reason for CO2 emission, is around 2%. That maybe doesn't sound a lot but is equivalent to Canada or Germany, and is also bigger than the emissions caused by airplanes. 

At the same time, open source gets relevant momentum and can be found in many system implementations or is the foundation modern systems are built on. That's why we would like to propose you the TAG Sustainability. We as a community can lay the foundation for sustainable software, sustainable open source projects and best practices to deliver our part for a positive change in the future.

Please find our proposal here:

We would be more than happy to discuss this with you in the next TOC about the TAG. By questions feel free to reach out to us.

Best regards
Max


Proposal TAG Sustainability

Max Koerbaecher <max@...>
 

Dear TOC,

we would like to propose you a new TAG. 

Sustainability is a growing and important topic and can be done effectively only if everyone delivers their part to it. The data centers' global energy consumption, and therefore the reason for CO2 emission, is around 2%. That maybe doesn't sound a lot but is equivalent to Canada or Germany, and is also bigger than the emissions caused by airplanes. 

At the same time, open source gets relevant momentum and can be found in many system implementations or is the foundation modern systems are built on. That's why we would like to propose you the TAG Sustainability. We as a community can lay the foundation for sustainable software, sustainable open source projects and best practices to deliver our part for a positive change in the future.

Please find our proposal here:

We would be more than happy to discuss this with you in the next TOC about the TAG. By questions feel free to reach out to us.

Best regards
Max


Re: TOC Election Results for the TOC chosen seat

Richard Hartmann
 

Thanks a _lot_, Alena!

Welcome (back), Katie :)


Re: TOC Election Results for the TOC chosen seat

Alena Prokharchyk
 

Congratulations, Katie!

-alena

On Mar 18, 2022, at 12:41 PM, Amye Scavarda Perrin <ascavarda@...> wrote:

I'm pleased to announce that Katie Gamanji has been elected to the TOC as the TOC chosen seat. 

Thank you to Matt Butcher as our other candidate in the runoff, as well as all of our other candidates who were nominated for this seat. 

Lastly, I want to offer a thank you to outgoing TOC member, Alena Prokharchyk for her work. 

--
Amye Scavarda Perrin | Director of Developer Programs, CNCF | amye@...


Re: TOC Election Results for the TOC chosen seat

Alex Chircop
 

Thank you Alena and congratulations Katie!

On Fri, 18 Mar 2022, 19:41 Amye Scavarda Perrin, <ascavarda@...> wrote:
I'm pleased to announce that Katie Gamanji has been elected to the TOC as the TOC chosen seat. 

Thank you to Matt Butcher as our other candidate in the runoff, as well as all of our other candidates who were nominated for this seat. 

Lastly, I want to offer a thank you to outgoing TOC member, Alena Prokharchyk for her work. 

--
Amye Scavarda Perrin | Director of Developer Programs, CNCF | amye@...



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