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Re: [VOTE] KEDA for Incubation
+1 NB, but clearly I am biased 😄
- Tom Kerkhove
From: cncf-toc@... <cncf-toc@...> on behalf of Amye Scavarda Perrin <ascavarda@...>
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 8:31:56 PM To: CNCF TOC <cncf-toc@...> Subject: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] KEDA for Incubation The KEDA project has applied for Incubation status.
PR: https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/622 Due Diligence: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16iqSoPiOe7N0jNevuXvan31ut3MocGLz-I9yTLGaSdM/edit Liz Rice is the TOC Sponsor for this project, has called for public comment and has approved a call for a public vote. https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/5918 Please vote (+1/0/-1) by replying to this thread. Remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support! Amye Scavarda Perrin | Program Manager |
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Re: [VOTE] KEDA for Incubation
Sheng Liang <sheng.liang@...>
+1 binding
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On Behalf Of Amye Scavarda Perrin via lists.cncf.io
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 11:32 AM To: CNCF TOC <cncf-toc@...> Subject: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] KEDA for Incubation
The KEDA project has applied for Incubation status.
-- Amye Scavarda Perrin | Program Manager | amye@...
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Re: [VOTE] Linkerd for Graduation
Sheng Liang <sheng.liang@...>
+1 binding
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On Behalf Of Eduardo Silva via lists.cncf.io
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 11:38 AM To: dzolo@... Cc: Amye Scavarda Perrin <ascavarda@...>; CNCF TOC <cncf-toc@...> Subject: Re: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] Linkerd for Graduation
+1 non-binding
On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 12:37, Dave Zolotusky via lists.cncf.io <dzolo=spotify.com@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] Linkerd for Graduation
Eduardo Silva
+1 non-binding
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Re: [VOTE] Linkerd for Graduation
+1 binding
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 8:15 PM Amye Scavarda Perrin <ascavarda@...> wrote:
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[VOTE] KEDA for Incubation
Amye Scavarda Perrin
The KEDA project has applied for Incubation status. PR: https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/622 Due Diligence: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16iqSoPiOe7N0jNevuXvan31ut3MocGLz-I9yTLGaSdM/edit Liz Rice is the TOC Sponsor for this project, has called for public comment and has approved a call for a public vote. https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/5918 Please vote (+1/0/-1) by replying to this thread. Remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support! Amye Scavarda Perrin | Program Manager | amye@...
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[VOTE] Linkerd for Graduation
Amye Scavarda Perrin
Linkerd has applied to move from Incubating to Graduated. PR: https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/616 Due Diligence (DD) doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-b9jS1v6uc26y6SySt_JG0eVkFU5gKiYeXfqiGVqPPs Dave Zolotusky is the TOC sponsor for Linkerd, has called for public comment and has approved a call for public vote. (https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/5917) Please vote (+1/0/-1) by replying to this thread. Remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support! Amye Scavarda Perrin | Program Manager | amye@...
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Crossplane 2021 annual review
Jared Watts <jared@...>
Hello TOC and all -
We have opened a PR containing the annual review content for Crossplane: https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/689 We are quite far along with our Incubation proposal, but wanted to be thorough and cover this annual review as well while that is ongoing. Let us know if there are any comments or questions :) - jared
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Re: [VOTE] OpenMetrics for Incubation
Hausenblas, Michael
+1 non-binding
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] OpenTelemetry for incubation
Paul Buck
... Paul
On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 4:20 PM Ken Haines via lists.cncf.io <Kenneth.Haines=microsoft.com@...> wrote:
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Re: [EXTERNAL] [cncf-toc] [VOTE] OpenMetrics for Incubation
Ken Haines <Kenneth.Haines@...>
+1 NB
Cheers,
From: cncf-toc@... <cncf-toc@...> on behalf of Amye Scavarda Perrin via lists.cncf.io <ascavarda=linuxfoundation.org@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2021 12:01 PM To: CNCF TOC <cncf-toc@...> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [cncf-toc] [VOTE] OpenMetrics for Incubation OpenMetrics has applied to move from Sandbox to Incubation.
PR: https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/615 Due Diligence (DD) doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BN6ABvfbAMhJthH6xNOY5Lmls3jeE3kFbMgF04BzEKE/edit#heading=h.jidcx4f4xk02 Alena Prokharchyk has called for public comment (https://lists.cncf.io/g/cncf-toc/message/5913) and has approved a call for a public vote. Please vote (+1/0/-1) by replying to this thread. Remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support! Amye Scavarda Perrin | Program Manager |
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] OpenTelemetry for incubation
Ken Haines <Kenneth.Haines@...>
+1 NB
Cheers,
Ken
From: cncf-toc@... <cncf-toc@...> on behalf of Liz Rice via lists.cncf.io <liz=lizrice.com@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2021 1:36 AM To: cncf-toc@... <cncf-toc@...> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] OpenTelemetry for incubation +1 binding
Regarding the communication of different levels of maturity of different parts of the project, the
status page is a good addition, thank you!
+1 nb
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Re: [VOTE] OpenTelemetry for incubation
KRV <Venkatraman.R@...>
+1 binding
Best Regards, Venkat | +91 9148984211 Desk | +91 80 410 57045 Lack Of Planning On Your Part, Does not Constitute An Emergency On Mine.
From: cncf-toc@... <cncf-toc@...>
On Behalf Of Dave Zolotusky via lists.cncf.io
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 11:48 AM To: Dennis Kieselhorst <deki@...> Cc: CNCF TOC <cncf-toc@...> Subject: Re: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] OpenTelemetry for incubation
[**EXTERNAL EMAIL**] +1 binding
On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 7:06 AM Dennis Kieselhorst <deki@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] OpenMetrics for Incubation
Eduardo Silva
+1 non-binding!
On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 at 04:14, Rob Skillington <rob@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] OpenMetrics for Incubation
+1 non-binding!
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 7:05 PM Alena Prokharchyk via lists.cncf.io <aprokharchyk=apple.com@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] OpenTelemetry for incubation
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Re: [VOTE] OpenTelemetry for incubation
+1 non-binding
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Re: [VOTE] OpenTelemetry for incubation
Mark Carter
Perhaps as a counterpoint, I am aware of several hundred customers using OpenTelemetry in production. With OTEL tracing already heavily used and metrics expected to hit GA by the end of the year I personally feel thatOpentelemetry is what we would expect of an incubating project to be. My $0.02, Mark Sent from my mobile phone
On Jul 7, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Eduardo Silva <eduardo@...> wrote:
Hi Alena, My primary concerns are Metrics and Logs, I was asked by a couple of techs leads about my opinion and I am pretty much sharing the same. For an incubation project, maturity and adoption are required, I know that first hand by our experience with the Fluentd project. As you mention some areas are being prioritized to fill the gaps, which is great, but now when doing a "checkpoint evaluation" I simply think is not yet ready, the question is: is it ready for incubation now, or will be ready later ?. Definitely moving a project from Sandbox -> Incubation helps in many areas such as marketing and adoption, but we don't aim to be a blocker on that, adoption must be organic. As a bit of context, at Fluentd we are integrating metrics too as part of our processing and forwarding pipeline, and our evaluation ended up with: we have to integrate with Prometheus ecosystem first (open metrics) because Opentelemetry is not yet ready. So how can we tell the end-users that this project is incubating by solving A, B, C but only A is ready? I know this is a complex topic. If Otel moves to incubation today, for us (Fluentd) the maturity and specs will be the same, we will take the same decision to wait for some more maturity, so it's not ready. I am not against Opentelemetry, all the opposite, I want Opentelemetry to succeed (we will natively integrate with it!) and I think providing more time to mature Metrics and Logs is highly beneficial, but rushing it to increase adoption and vendors awareness is not. I am pretty sure Opentelemetry might get the votes to move forward anyway, but this is my technical opinion based on experience as a maintainer and being around on CNCF for some time. Simply, there is nothing wrong to be in Sandbox a bit more time to get more maturity... best, On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 11:25, Alena Prokharchyk <aprokharchyk@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] OpenMetrics for Incubation
Alena Prokharchyk
Hi Mark, Thank you for raising this question. There are no plans to merge OpenTelemetry and OpenMetrics. There is an effort by OpenTelemetry on adding OpenMetrics support to the collector. Together with the Prometheus and OpenMetrics community, the workgroup was formed, with weekly meetings that move this work forward. Many non-trivial challenges are being discussed and worked on, which brings benefits to all communities. More information and meetings notes can be found here https://github.com/open-telemetry/wg-prometheus, everybody is welcome to participate and ask questions. -alena
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Re: [VOTE] OpenMetrics for Incubation
Mark Carter
I am supportive of Openmetrics, but would like to raise a concern. I am hearing more and more customers who are confused with how Opentelemetry metrics and Openmetrics relate to each other and which one they should be implementing. I am concerned that without a plan for CNCF to collapse Openmetrics and Opentelemetry metrics specs to a single spec we may end up in a similar situation to when we had Opentracing and Opencensus as parallel projects which each had a slightly different view on tracing. Would be great to have guidance to customers on what is CNCF view on the relationship between the two and whether they should or should not merge and why. Would love to understand how others in the community and TOC view this as I may not have the full picture. Thank you for your insights, Mark
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 1:22 PM Alena Prokharchyk via lists.cncf.io <aprokharchyk=apple.com@...> wrote:
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