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Re: [VOTE] etcd for graduation
Barak Stout
+1 NB
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Re: [VOTE] etcd for graduation
Tim St. Clair
+1 NB
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Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 11:56 AM To: Matt Klein <mattklein123@...>; Bartłomiej Płotka <bwplotka@...> Cc: Amye Scavarda Perrin <ascavarda@...>; CNCF TOC <cncf-toc@...> Subject: Re: [cncf-toc] [VOTE] etcd for graduation +1 NB
John Hillegass On Nov 13, 2020, 12:56 PM -0500, Bartłomiej Płotka <bwplotka@...>, wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] etcd for graduation
John Hillegass
+1 NB
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Re: [VOTE] etcd for graduation
+1 NB The world without etcd would a bad world! (: Kind Regards, Bartek Płotka (@bwplotka) On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 18:52, Matt Klein <mattklein123@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] etcd for graduation
Lee Calcote
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Re: [VOTE] etcd for graduation
Matt Klein
+1 On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 9:51 AM Amye Scavarda Perrin <ascavarda@...> wrote:
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[VOTE] etcd for graduation
Amye Scavarda Perrin
The etcd project has applied for graduation: https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/541 The due diligence document can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10IRk__v_nehw-0BpqUnNSY4A8RNP2ztdqKLX2mh0PlU/edit?usp=sharing Xiang Li is the TOC sponsor. Please vote (+1/0/-1) by replying to this thread. Remember that the TOC has binding votes only, but we do appreciate non-binding votes from the community as a sign of support! Thank you! - amye Amye Scavarda Perrin | Program Manager | amye@... |
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FYI: New Training Course on Diversity in Open Source
As a follow up from previous discussions on D&I training, we at The Linux Foundation in partnership with NCWIT are launching a new course on building inclusive open source communities that CNCF helped fund: https://training.linuxfoundation.org/announcements/linux-foundation-and-ncwit-release-free-training-course-on-diversity-in-open-source/ We should consider making this as a graduation requirement or even as part of project acceptance, food for thought as we ramp up for kubecon + cloudnativecon next week! Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) |
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2020 Longhorn annual review
Sheng Yang
Hi, TOC members I've opened a PR (https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/564) for the annual review of the Longhorn project. Thanks. --Sheng |
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FYI: Dan Kohn Memorial Service Friday Nov 13th
For those that are interested, there will be a memorial service for Dan on Friday: If you're interested in leaving a memory/story, you can send a PR here: https://github.com/cncf/memorials/blob/master/dan-kohn.md Thank you. Chris Aniszczyk (@cra) |
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Projects included into Sandbox from November 10th meeting
Amye Scavarda Perrin
The TOC has reviewed the projects that have applied to be included in Sandbox, see the results below. Our next Sandbox meeting will be January 26th. Passes with a majority TOC vote Cloud Development Kit for Kubernetes (cdk8s) Passes with a majority TOC vote Athenz TOC would like to know more about relationship with Spiffe/Spire cert-manager Passes with a majority TOC vote OpenKruise Passes with a majority TOC vote Tinkerbell Passes with a majority TOC vote Stanza Reapply in future for Spring review Pravega Passes with a majority TOC vote Kyverno Passes with a majority TOC vote Dataset Lifecycle Framework Reapply in future for Spring review, but also consider another AI + Data community - https://lfaidata.foundation Amye Scavarda Perrin | Program Manager | amye@... |
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Re: Sandbox Projects included from September 8 TOC meeting
andy shi
During the last CNCF sandbox review, the TOC wanted the K8s upstream to provide opinions of project OpenKruise. After the meeting, we reached out to Sig Apps and K8s Steering committee. The Steering committee directed us to Sig Arch instead. Since then, we have had discussions with both Sigs. For your convenience, I'm pasting both responses below. In summary, both Sigs evaluated the OpenKruise project and suggested OpenKruise is better to stay as an outside project instead of becoming part of upstream K8s. We have done our due diligence and hope to get another vote at the next review meeting. Best Regards, Andy Shi on behalf of project OpenKruise From Matt of Sig Apps: " We discussed OpenKruise in Kubernetes SIG Apps. I can now answer
questions asked of SIG Apps. In the meeting what OpenKruise is building
was discussed along with how things could operate between SIG Apps as a
sandbox project or K8s SIG sponsored project.
Experiments
happen all over. For example, OpenShift's work lead to what we now have
as the Workloads APIs. We don't believe they need or should be part of
the Kubernetes project. It is perfectly fine for them to be either k8s
SIG sponsored projects, CNCF projects, or some other project. In
this case OpenKruise desires to operate as a sandbox project and SIG
Apps is supportive of that. We have a path to collaborate as needed.
This
is more difficult. Upstream Kubernetes won't likely accept every new
type of controller. The direction is generally to have them installed as
3rd party controllers. The bar to move something into core Kubernetes
is now very high. Some successful features may make it into Kubernetes core. Others will likely always be recommended to be handled as 3rd party. OpenKruise
can have successful 3rd party CRDs and controllers that do not go into
Kubernetes itself. I expect this case to be likely.
SIG
Apps does not believe there should be one home for "all
workload-related CRD ideas". They can happen in many places and
innovation can happen under many projects. How those projects organize
around people and governance may vary. I hope this helps answer the questions of SIG Apps. If there are more I'm happy to try and chase them down. And, thanks for pointing OpenKruise at SIG Apps. It lead to a good conversation. Regards, Matt Farina" From John of Sig Arch: "We discussed this in the SIG Architecture meeting today. While generally
workload controllers are within scope of the Kubernetes project, it is
up to SIG Apps to decide if they are willing to take these on as
SIG-sponsored projects. As Matt suggests, it's fine for these to exist
as external workload controllers. With respect to
upstreaming, the preference of SIG Arch would be to see individual
features move into existing workload controllers as they mature, rather
than creation of whole new controllers. The goal here would be to avoid a
proliferation of controllers that makes choices very difficult for
consumers. Of course, if there is some fundamental difference between
the new controller and all existing ones, then a new one may be
warranted. But creation of a new one should be done with an abundance of
caution. Again this would ultimately be the decision of SIG Apps. Thanks, John" On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 1:05 PM Amye Scavarda Perrin <ascavarda@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] Buildpacks to move to incubation
sandeep lahane
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Re: [VOTE] Buildpacks to move to incubation
Gadi Naor
+1 NB On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 6:02 PM Alena Prokharchyk via lists.cncf.io <aprokharchyk=apple.com@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] Buildpacks to move to incubation
Romaric Philogène
+1 binding On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 5:02 PM Alena Prokharchyk via lists.cncf.io <aprokharchyk=apple.com@...> wrote:
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Re: [VOTE] Buildpacks to move to incubation
Alena Prokharchyk
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Agenda for 11/3
Amye Scavarda Perrin
Hi all, We'll be meeting tomorrow at 8am Pacific. Highlights include a review of the CNF Conformance and SIG Updates. Presentation: https://docs.google.com/presentation/u/2/d/19koA_fGEZi4clZMaE84zIpUtTH1EyuCO2M-mnXMdgGg/edit#slide=id.g25ca91f87f_0_168 -- Amye Scavarda Perrin | Program Manager | amye@... |
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Re: [VOTE] Buildpacks to move to incubation
Katie Gamanji
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etcd call for public comment
Amye Scavarda Perrin
The etcd project has applied for graduation: https://github.com/cncf/toc/pull/541 The due diligence document can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10IRk__v_nehw-0BpqUnNSY4A8RNP2ztdqKLX2mh0PlU/edit?usp=sharing Xiang Li is the TOC sponsor and has called for public comments. The public comment period is now open for 2 weeks, and all SIGs, end users, TOC members, and community members are welcome to comment by replying to this thread. Thank you! - amye |
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Re: [VOTE] Buildpacks to move to incubation
Saad Ali
+1 binding On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 2:18 PM Amye Scavarda Perrin <ascavarda@...> wrote:
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