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IC4E only begs the question about what it stands for. It also doesn't set the project up, IMO, for success as the more memorable name will be with the commercial entity and it could stunt the development of the open source project outside of the commercial attachments. If this were at the Sandbox level I probably wouldn't be bringing this up, but the name change along with introduction into Incubation is something new that the CNCF hasn't seen before. I worry people will still colloquially refer to the OSS project as "Ambassador" (and documentation and install scripts still use the name).
Hi Joe, Matt, many thanks for your comments.
@Matt, I remember you raising this in the DD document comments,
and @Chris Aniszczyk suggested this would be acceptable under the
trademark policy (e.g. "X for Envoy"). He suggested that we use a
short name like "IC4E" in the docs and new website that would be
created for the project.
We originally looked to ingress-nginx as inspiration, since the
community seems to have accepted this as a name even though it’s
well-understood it’s not “official”. We also wanted to with a
descriptive name instead of an abstract name, because we thought
it would be easier for people to understand.
On 06/01/2021 19:54, Matt Klein wrote:
> I object to the name "Ingress Controller for
Envoy Proxy” as that also describes Contour. This will create
confusion and will be easily misread as "THE Ingress Controller
for Envoy Proxy" and will violate the "no kingmakers" value of
I agree and I raised a similar concern at some point but I
don't remember the outcome here. @Daniel Bryant
On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 10:48
AM Joe Beda <joe@...
What is the new name? The name "ambassador" is
all over the docs and I'd expect to see this reframed around
the new name.
I object to the name "Ingress Controller for Envoy
Proxy” as that also describes Contour. This will create
confusion and will be easily misread as "THE Ingress
Controller for Envoy Proxy" and will violate the "no
kingmakers" value of the TOC.
Ambassador is applying for incubation status:
DD has been reviewed by myself and SIG Network
and we are supportive. We are now calling for the 2
week public comment period prior to the vote.
Daniel Bryant | @danielbryantuk
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