OpenKruise is experimenting with a number of workload-related resource definitions, some of which are enhancements to existing core K8s resources. We're happy to see these experiments and want to support them, but we wondered if it makes more sense for them to belong within the purview of the Kubernetes project rather than as a standalone project? My understanding is that OpenKruise intends to eventually contribute successful experiments to upstream Kubernetes anyway. 

There's also a question about project scope. If the Kubernetes project would actually prefer these experiments to take place in a separate project, does that make OpenKruise the natural home for all workload-related CRD ideas, or some other scope? 

The discussion was recorded (I'm sure Amy can provide the link if she hasn't already circulated it) and that might be worth listening to for more context, if you have the time.   

On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 4:21 PM Matt Farina <matt@...> wrote:

OpenKruise has reached out to Kubernetes SIG Apps and we will discuss the project.

For context, why would the TOC suggest OpenKruise fall under k8s instead of being it's own CNCF sandbox project?

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, at 4:05 PM, Amye Scavarda Perrin wrote:

The TOC has reviewed the current Sandbox projects applying for inclusion. 

The projects included are: 

Backstage 

Tremor

metal3-io

Porter

OpenYurt 

Open Service Mesh 

Other projects not brought to vote: 

checkov - further conversation needed re: roadmap, holding for updated roadmap

protop - no roadmap! https://github.com/protop-io/protop#roadmap Should this be a subproject of gRPC? TOC would like feedback from the gRPC project. 

Dataset Lifecycle Framework - next steps: TOC conversation with SIG Storage, Kubernetes COSI KEP

OpenKruise - discussion with Kubernetes Steering Committee needed, SIG Apps - should this be a subproject?

Predator - no clear roadmap, resubmit with clearer roadmap

SchemaHero - no clear roadmap, resubmit with clearer roadmap

Keylime - scheduled for next closed meeting, September 22

As part of this process, we've now added a new question to the sandbox proposal form: "Why do you want to contribute your project to the CNCF? What would you like to get out of being part of the CNCF?" 

Welcome to these new sandbox projects! 

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