Anil, it is a completely open model, the charter is a living document that evolves over time based on input from different constituents.

You can see the history here: https://github.com/cncf/foundation/commits/master/charter.md

There are questions on evolving the process to be more transparent for something in, but the whole organization is an open non-profit. I asked you to read the charter and other documents on the foundation's github.

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 1:05 PM Anil Vishnoi <vishnoianil@...> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 12:44 PM Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> wrote:

It's enshrined in the charter and most of the GB helps pay the bills and keep the lights on for the foundation:

https://github.com/cncf/foundation/blob/master/charter.md#6-technical-oversight-committee-toc

Thanks Chris for the pointers. IMHO that's not a very strong reason when we talk in the context of open and transparent technical community, but it's just me here :). I have been part of the board/TOC where they started with this model and eventually moved toward total open model, so that's where i was bit curious to understand the rationals (not saying that this model is essentially not good for running the open foundation). 

You can read our latest annual report on who we are and what the organization does for its projects:

https://www.cncf.io/cncf-annual-report-2018/

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 12:40 PM Anil Vishnoi <vishnoianil@...> wrote:

I am new to CNCF TOC model, so i have a newbi question here for my understanding, so please bear with me. 

Are there any specific reasons that TOC still has 6 GB nominations, rather than keeping these nominations open? 

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 8:29 AM Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> wrote:

There will be 11 seats total:

- 6 nominees from the Governing Board (GB)
- 2 nominees from the End User Community (up from 1)
- 1 nominee from the non-sandbox project maintainers (up from 0)
- 2 nominees from the other 9 members of the TOC

For the End User TOC seats, it will be the end user members:

https://www.cncf.io/people/end-user-community/

For the non sandbox maintainer seat, it will be the non-sandbox maintainers here (maintainers.cncf.io)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Pr8cyp8RLrNGx9WBAgQvBzUUmqyOv69R7QAFKhacJEM/edit#gid=262035321

For the GB selected seats, it's the GB:

https://www.cncf.io/people/governing-board/

Amye will have a post out Monday describing all of this in more detail with the timeline.

Hope this helps, there's a lot of constituents that make up the TOC now.

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 8:23 AM Davanum Srinivas <davanum@...> wrote:

Chris,

Thanks for the blog post. Do we have numbers for how many people are eligible to cast votes in each "Selecting Group"? As i read it, just 3 of the seats (2 from EUC and 1 from non-sandbox) are where the "general community" have a say in. Is that correct?

Thanks,

Dims

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 8:16 AM Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...> wrote:

We are working on a blog post, PR that should go out next week describing the election process, we will open nominations this month with results coming here: https://www.cncf.io/blog/2019/09/19/title-turning-the-toc-up-to-11/

The TOC election schedule has always been described here openly on GitHub:

https://github.com/cncf/toc/blob/master/process/election-schedule.md

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 8:12 AM Alexis Richardson <alexis@...> wrote:

Chris, Amye, et al

With the TOC adding 2 seats, what do people do if they want to stand?
More generally as we discussed at Kubecon, how are we making the TOC
process more open & inclusive?

alexis

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Thanks

Anil

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Thanks

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