Re: netdata shitshow

Hausenblas, Michael

Well, stars are a vanity or input metric. How about downloads, traffic, engagements. GitHub has some stats available …



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On 7 June 2019 at 13:17:40, Dan Kohn (dan@...) wrote:
Yes, it requires 300 stars to get added, among other criteria.

I'd welcome ideas for additional requirements.

Relatedly, netdata merged my PR:
Dan Kohn
Executive Director, Cloud Native Computing Foundation

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 7:58 AM Liz Rice wrote:

I wasn't clear - I was thinking about the criteria the CNCF has for adding
projects to the landscape (where one of the criteria is some number of
github stars, if I recall correctly).
On 7 Jun 2019, 12:01 +0100, Davanum Srinivas , wrote:


Isn't there a challenge that folks who may want to "game" will not use the
new system as it does not show the "inflated" numbers that they currently


On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:33 AM Liz Rice wrote:

Maybe we (or GitHub) could build some kind of “realstars” count which only
counts stars from folks who have also done some number of other activities
(raising PRs or issues, making comments, maybe even just filling in their
On 7 Jun 2019, 01:00 +0100, Shannon Williams , wrote:

Perfect Dan, thanks.

Best Regards,

Shannon Williams

Rancher Labs


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*From:* Dan Kohn
*Sent:* Thursday, June 6, 2019 2:46 PM
*To:* Matthew Farina
*Cc:* Alexis Richardson ; Shannon Williams <
shannon@...>; david.andrew.mckay@...; Josh M <
josh.michielsen@...>; CNCF TOC
*Subject:* Re: [cncf-toc] netdata shitshow

I created this PR:


Dan Kohn

Executive Director, Cloud Native Computing Foundation


On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 4:58 PM Matthew Farina wrote:

While I’m not a lawyer, I wonder if this violates the trademark rules. states:

Do not use a logo of The Linux Foundation on posters, brochures,
signs, websites, or other marketing materials to promote your events,
products or services without written permission from The Linux Foundation.

Just thinking out loud.

Matt Farina

On Jun 6, 2019, at 4:51 PM, alexis richardson wrote:

The site doesn't say "applied for CNCF and was rejected". This is an
example of "lying by omission". It is not OK.

On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 9:49 PM Shannon Williams

+1 – feels like an inappropriate use of the logo. @Dan Kohn – anything we
can do to stop that?

From: cncf-toc@... On Behalf Of David
McKay via Lists.Cncf.Io
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 1:40 PM
To: Josh M
Cc: cncf-toc@...
Subject: Re: [cncf-toc] netdata shitshow

While not "technically" incorrect, I understand what Alexis is saying; it
seems like unethical wording used intentionally to cause inferences towards
being CNCF supported/approved/certified.

IIRC, they did try to become a CNCF project and had no sponsors.

A quick Google shows that they're using this "endorsement" actively in
their marketing campaigns:

On Thu, 6 Jun 2019, 13:30 Josh M,

It's technically not wrong I guess....

On Thu, 6 Jun 2019, 9:28 pm alexis richardson, wrote:

"Netdata is in the Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF) landscape
and it is the 3rd most starred open-source project. Check the CNCF TOC
Netdata presentation."

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