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Re: netdata shitshow

Jennifer Lankford <jennifer@...>
 

My first instinct would be to contact them directly to get them to course correct immediately, and make a public statement warning against this practice to the community. They also owe the community an apology. Bad look.

I TRY to not assume ill intent but it’s clearly a very smarmy move on their part. Maaaybe it’s a misguided and ignorant mistake by an overzealous junior marketer. Hopefully not a founder. But it also needs to serve as an example and cautionary tale of what not to do. 


On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:38 PM, Erin Boyd <eboyd@...> wrote:

Would it be appropriate to respond in a more public manner?
Maybe just an article that says "check out our updated landscape" maybe to mention the archival of projects etc.. as well.

Just thinking out loud.

Thanks for catching  this Alexis.
Is there some way we can capture this in a more official/automated manner in the future?



On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 4:31 PM Liz Rice <liz@...> wrote:
Thank you Dan 

I must say I'm a bit sceptical about stars. I wish it were more like stack overflow or discuss, so that you have to earn the right to give them out. 
On 6 Jun 2019, 22:46 +0100, Dan Kohn <dan@...>, wrote:
I created this PR: https://github.com/netdata/netdata/pull/6234
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On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 4:58 PM Matthew Farina <matt@...> wrote:
While I’m not a lawyer, I wonder if this violates the trademark rules. https://www.linuxfoundation.org/trademark-usage/ states:

Do not use a logo of The Linux Foundation on posters, brochures, signs, websites, or other marketing materials to promote your events, products or services without written permission from The Linux Foundation.

Just thinking out loud.

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On Jun 6, 2019, at 4:51 PM, alexis richardson <alexis@...> wrote:

The site doesn't say "applied for CNCF and was rejected".  This is an
example of "lying by omission".  It is not OK.

On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 9:49 PM Shannon Williams <shannon@...> wrote:

+1 – feels like an inappropriate use of the logo.  @Dan Kohn – anything we can do to stop that?





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While not "technically" incorrect, I understand what Alexis is saying; it seems like unethical wording used intentionally to cause inferences towards being CNCF supported/approved/certified.



IIRC, they did try to become a CNCF project and had no sponsors.



A quick Google shows that they're using this "endorsement" actively in their marketing campaigns:



https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17304734







On Thu, 6 Jun 2019, 13:30 Josh M, <josh.michielsen@...> wrote:

It's technically not wrong I guess....



On Thu, 6 Jun 2019, 9:28 pm alexis richardson, <alexis@...> wrote:

"Netdata is in the Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF) landscape
and it is the 3rd most starred open-source project. Check the CNCF TOC
Netdata presentation."

https://github.com/netdata/netdata/blob/master/README.md






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