Quinton Hoole <quinton.hoole@...>
To be clear, I totally agree that "trying to address every project in that space" is not a goal, and neither can it be for almost any of the CNCF SIGs (Storage, Security, Traffic/Networking clearly also suffer from a similar problem).
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From: cncf-toc@... <cncf-toc@...> on behalf of Roger Klorese <roger.klorese@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 11:39 AM
To: Doug Davis
Cc: Alexis Richardson; Jeff Brewer; cncf-toc@...; Michelle Noorali
Subject: Re: [cncf-toc] CNCF SIG "App Delivery"
I believe they are by nature in scope - but also trying to address every project in those spaces is boiling the ocean.
On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:38 AM, Doug Davis < dug@...> wrote:
Is there a doc that gives a more detailed explanation of what "App Delivery" is meant to cover?
I honestly do not know what it means for both PaaS and Serverless to be out of scope when I believe all of them are (probably) based on containers and therefore will leverage container images as part of "App Delivery".
thanks
-Doug
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<graycol.gif>Alexis Richardson ---06/04/2019 02:22:19 PM---Doug - no, I'm just saying that both PaaS and Serverless are out of scope for CNCF SIG App Delivery.
From: Alexis Richardson <alexis@...>
To: Doug Davis <dug@...>
Cc: "cncf-toc@..." <cncf-toc@...>, "Brewer, Jeff" <Jeff_Brewer@...>,
Michelle Noorali <Michelle.Noorali@...>
Date: 06/04/2019 02:22 PM
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: [cncf-toc] CNCF SIG "App Delivery"
Doug - no, I'm just saying that both PaaS and Serverless are out of
scope for CNCF SIG App Delivery.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 6:08 PM Doug Davis <dug@...> wrote:
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> Alexis - since you mentioned that PaaS and serverless isn't in scope, in your opinion, does this mean that you see defining how to deliver a "serverless app" as something distinct from a "PaaS app" or a "K8s app" ? I've been starting to merge these world
a lot recently.
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> thanks
> -Doug
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> "alexis richardson" ---06/04/2019 12:15:03 PM---Yep, they are. On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 5:14 PM Brewer, Jeff <Jeff_Brewer@...> wrote:
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> From: "alexis richardson" <alexis@...>
> To: "Brewer, Jeff" <Jeff_Brewer@...>
> Cc: Michelle Noorali <Michelle.Noorali@...>, "cncf-toc@..." <cncf-toc@...>
> Date: 06/04/2019 12:15 PM
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> > As long as app templates are part of the SIG, then it should be fine. Just need to be explicit with the charter (the name at least caused me a little confusion). I agree don't go too broad either.
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> > On 6/4/19, 9:11 AM, "Alexis Richardson" <alexis@...> wrote:
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> > I think the intent is already pretty broad, including app templates
> > and so on (eg Helm), plus various pieces of the CD pipe, plus
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> > IMO stuff like PaaS & serverless is out of scope.
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> > > Would it make sense to have a more general app sig? I'd be curious what other CNCF TOC members think. I know in general Kubernetes has tried to stay unopinionated "up the stack" but it seems unless we define an "application" in a more formal way,
having App Delivery as a SIG is premature. Am I making sense?
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> > > Michelle and I are pulling together a SIG for App Delivery.
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> > > Our next step: draft a charter. We'd love a few keen would-be
> > > SIGonauts to join our chartering efforts, please! Also, we shall
> > > figure out a plan to solicit leaders for the group.
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> > > Interested? Email us offline.
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