Re: CNCF SIGs Proposal

Quinton Hoole

Yes, although I think that operators themselves will probably also be discussed in most of the SIG’s, as they’re a general-purpose automation mechanism, and may be applied anywhere.
So operators for Vitess, Cassandra, etcd  will likely be discussed under SIG-Storage, etc

Here’s a list of some example operators, for those who may not be familiar:

The Operator Framework, API etc will probably be discussed in App Dev, Ops & Testing.

Diane, were you referring to the Operator Framework, or the operators themselves?


From: Diane Mueller-Klingspor <dmueller@...>
Date: Monday, February 4, 2019 at 10:13
To: Quinton Hoole <quinton.hoole@...>
Cc: Brian Grant <briangrant@...>, "cncf-toc@..." <cncf-toc@...>, Erin Boyd <eboyd@...>, Sarah Allen <sarahallen@...>, Bryan Cantrill <bryan@...>, Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...>, Matt Farina <matt.farina@...>, Alex Chircop <alex.chircop@...>, Alexis Richardson <alexis@...>
Subject: Re: [cncf-toc] CNCF SIGs Proposal

Quinton et al,

Would it be acceptable to add"Operators" to list of areas covered in the App Dev, Ops & Testing - "Area" column? As we get asked a lot which Kubernetes SIG this topic falls into. I know it's not a CNCF project, but it would be good to point people to the SIG where the conversations are happening.

Diane Mueller

On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 11:06 AM Quinton Hoole <quinton.hoole@...> wrote:

From: Brian Grant <briangrant@...>
Date: Friday, February 1, 2019 at 07:24
To: Quinton Hoole <quinton.hoole@...>
Cc: "cncf-toc@..." <cncf-toc@...>, Erin Boyd <eboyd@...>, Sarah Allen <sarahallen@...>, Bryan Cantrill <bryan@...>, Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...>, Matt Farina <matt.farina@...>, Alex Chircop <alex.chircop@...>, Alexis Richardson <alexis@...>
Subject: Re: [cncf-toc] CNCF SIGs Proposal

Thanks for all the work on this. It's much improved. I think the proposed governance model should address concerns with earlier proposals.

What is meant by "high level roadmap of projects within this space"? Usually I associate "roadmap" with a timeline. Landscape? Trailmap? How they fit into a reference architecture?

Quinton> I didn’t write those words, but my own thinking is that it is intended to encompass all of the above, including the timeline angle.  i.e. what this space looks like today (including projects, ref arch, landscape, common trail maps etc) and also how these are changing over time (trends), and how we would like to influence all of this (filling gaps, better integrations, timelines for this), etc.

Nit: I'd put Buildpacks under App Dev, Ops & Testing. 

Quinton> Yes, some of the project allocations were a bit strained, with non-perfect fits.  I agree regarding Buildpacks and have moved it.


On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 10:47 PM Quinton Hoole <quinton.hoole@...> wrote:
Greetings to the new TOC

Late last year Alexis kicked off a public discussion regarding forming CNCF SIG’s (initially referred to as Categories).  Since then a few of us have collaborated on soliciting further input, addressing all the comments, and producing a finalish proposal for consideration by the TOC.

Please give it a read and we can decide how to proceed at the next meeting this Tue, Feb 5


From: Alexis Richardson <alexis@...>
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 07:58
To: Alex Chircop <alex.chircop@...>
Cc: Erin Boyd <eboyd@...>, Sarah Allen <sarahallen@...>, Bryan Cantrill <bryan@...>, Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...>, Quinton Hoole <quinton.hoole@...>, Matt Farina <matt.farina@...>
Subject: Re: CNCF TOC SIGs Doc

can you put this link into the main doc as a comment?

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 3:57 PM Alex Chircop <alex.chircop@...> wrote:

Hi Alexis,

Following our initial discussion in Seattle, Quinton and I had a discussion on this.   I captured the notes and applied them to the operating model.   I decided to make a copy of the doc and apply the changes to operating model section only - the current doc is hard to process due to the number of comments.

Here is the amended operating model content:

Kind Regards,


From: Alexis Richardson <alexis@...>
Sent: 09 January 2019 19:36
To: Erin Boyd; Sarah Allen
Cc: Bryan Cantrill; Chris Aniszczyk; Quinton Hoole; Alex Chircop; Matt Farina
Subject: CNCF TOC SIGs Doc
hi all

happy 2019!

how's this doc looking?  I daren't look.  can we show the toc an update next week?


On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 5:35 AM Alexis Richardson <alexis@...> wrote:

On Fri, 7 Dec 2018, 13:35 Erin Boyd, <eboyd@...> wrote:
Sounds good.
Please feel free to catch me on Slack.


On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 11:18 PM Alexis Richardson <alexis@...> wrote:
Thank you Erin.  Let's try and sync 1-1 during the week 

On Thu, 6 Dec 2018, 00:42 Erin Boyd, <eboyd@...> wrote:
HI Alexis,
I think I am speaking on a panel at this time.
I can collaborate in the document.
Sorry about that.

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:46 AM Alexis Richardson <alexis@...> wrote:

CNCF TOC meeting re SIGs Doc

meeting to discuss the Categories and SIGs doc
identify and divide up work tasks to clean up draft doc.
eg: we agree a new section plan and each take one section? or something
Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:30pm – 4:10pm Mountain Time - Denver
lobby of the Sheraton Grand Seattle (map)
Joining info
Or dial: +1 929-299-3513  PIN: 706587657#
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Matt Farina
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