Re: Sandbox projects and timing requirements


Lee Calcote
 

Yes, that’s how I read Eduardo’s question as well - one of ensuring a loophole doesn’t exist. 

- Lee

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Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 6:44:43 PM
To: Quinton Hoole
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Subject: Re: [cncf-toc] Sandbox projects and timing requirements
 
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 3:59 PM Quinton Hoole <quinton.hoole@...> wrote:
To add to what Chris said, and responding directly to:

"since it would be easier to go with sandbox and then jump into incubation, than do direct to incubation (which is harder).  “

The above is not the intention at all.  Is there any reason you believe that getting to incubation via sandbox is more difficult?  If so, we might need to clarify our communication around that.

I think Eduardo's point is that it looks like getting to incubation through sandbox is easier than just entering directly via incubation.

I don't think that should be the case.
 

Q

From: <cncf-toc@...> on behalf of Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@...>
Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 15:10
To: Eduardo Silva <eduardo@...>
Cc: CNCF TOC <cncf-toc@...>
Subject: Re: [cncf-toc] Sandbox projects and timing requirements

We decided not to put any timelines on anything in the beginning as each project is going to be different at its maturity stage. There are projects that may have decent adoption but low maintainer diversity and so on. The maturity levels are outlined pretty well here: https://github.com/cncf/toc/blob/master/process/graduation_criteria.adoc

The particular line "since these metrics can vary significantly depending on the type, scope and size of a project, the TOC has final judgement over the level of activity that is adequate to meet these criteria" was put in place to give the TOC some flexibility in decisions making as they are the final arbiter of maturity level decisions.

IMHO I don't think having a minimum time to bake is a bad idea but that is going to be different for each project as some are quicker to mature than others.

You're welcome to propose improvements to the sandbox process and discuss it in a PR: https://github.com/cncf/toc/blob/master/process/sandbox.md 

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:25 PM Eduardo Silva <eduardo@...> wrote:
Hi, 

Why Sandbox projects don't have a minimum time of requirement before to try to move to incubation ? I see that Harbor joined as a Sandbox project on July 31 and just after 3 months moving forward to incubation ? 

To be clear, this is not something against Harbor, but I see a potential "gray area" since it would be easier to go with sandbox and then jump into incubation, than do direct to incubation (which is harder).  

comments ?

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Eduardo Silva
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