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Let's sort out inception/sandbox and then we'll see. For the record,
I think "community support" is not an objective metric.
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Erin Boyd <eboyd@...> wrote:
I guess it depends on what we plan to do with inception in terms of
acceptance, dd, marketing, etc..
I absolutely think it's imperative that we have community support at
The concerns I am seeing voiced in several PRs during the DD for inception.
Does this better clarify my concerns to you?
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:20 PM, alexis richardson <alexis@...>
Please could you be specific? Do you think Inception and/or
Incubation should require Maintainers from more companies? I am not
promising changes, but *now* is the time to table and debate this. If
people have concerns, please invite them to voice them here or have a
sponsor do so on their behalf.
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Erin Boyd <eboyd@...> wrote:
It's not a question, but just an observation of voiced 'concern' I see
many of the inception level requests, where the feedback is "where is
community support beyond company A", etc.
So redefining our "what is means to be Cloud Native" and including Open
Source as part of this primary driving directive, it seems
to accept projects, even at an inception level if they don't strong
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 12:06 PM, alexis richardson <alexis@...>
What is your question about community support?
On Mon, 5 Feb 2018, 19:02 Erin Boyd, <eboyd@...> wrote:
Alexis/Dan et all,
I appreciate the work it is to grow this foundation and ensure it
in a healthy place, it's no small feat!
With the popularity of CNCF, it's 'endorsement' to projects is a huge
And while I know we are current revamping definitions to provide
understanding of the stages of a project, I think many in the
concerned that outside of this, perception is reality. Honestly, if I
potential customer and looking at a project, just having it listed
bunch of other projects at different levels) on the CNCF website
instills a certain amount of confidence in the project.
The criteria between inception to graduation is well documented and
understood by the TOC, but outside of that, I am not sure.
Many times it's been brought of that for instance, "community support
not sufficient for xyz project". We have agreed this is not a strict
requirement of inception, however those active in the Open Source
see this as criteria zero.
Also, do we have a good way of tracking technical concerns brought
forward from the DD to the next phase? Have we considered creating and
publishing a concrete timeline around each of these phases and what
is if projects don't meet these guidelines? I feel that many people
trying to provide good due diligence while also balancing their day
things are also getting possibly missed because the dates aren't well
defined. (I know I've mentioned this to Chris so sorry to feel like a
Would love to hear other's thoughts around this.
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 9:20 AM, alexis richardson <alexis@...>
That's really one for Dan but AIUI the whole website is in the
of being nurtured into an optimal state for 2018 .... So all
good & timely, anywhere.
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 4:16 PM, Jessica Frazelle <me@...>
Quick question: what are the platinum members, the ones who paid
Do they need to be on the same slide / materials as the projects?
that written into a contract or something? Also I'm more than happy
ask this on the call :)
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:14 AM, alexis richardson
thanks Dan & team
@all TOC community, please do comment to Dan directly or on
tomorrow's TOC call
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Dan Kohn <dan@...>
We'll be discussing maturity levels on the TOC call. This is just
note that at the TOC's request, we revised CNCF marketing
clearly separate Incubating and Inception projects:
We will obviously add a more prominent graduated section as soon
first projects graduate. The same project separation will carry
marketing materials for KubeCon + CloudNativeCon.
Dan Kohn <dan@...>
Executive Director, Cloud Native Computing Foundation
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