As for Istio vs Envoy... Istio uses Envoy under the covers so having both (eventually) in CNCF would be a nice pairing/outcome.


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Chris Aniszczyk via cncf-toc ---08/15/2017 06:30:16 PM---Just to expand on this, we've already spoken with the Istio team about a foundation home and the dis

From: Chris Aniszczyk via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...>
To: Alexis Richardson <alexis@...>
Cc: Varun Talwar <varuntalwar@...>, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...>
Date: 08/15/2017 06:30 PM
Subject: Re: [cncf-toc] Envoy
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Just to expand on this, we've already spoken with the Istio team about a foundation home and the discussions went well, it's still too early for them but we've planned to revisit the discussion later this year as the Istio community grows.

We love what they are doing and of course CNCF would be a great home for them IMHO :)

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:

Ack

I think the Istio team are evaluating their options.  It is early days - new project etc



On Tue, 15 Aug 2017, 09:55 Justin Garrison <justinleegarrison@...> wrote:
Speaking of Istio, do we know if there are any plans around istio being donated to the CNCF? How does that affect inclusion of envoy (I'm assuming it doesn't)? I think it's good to have complimentary projects in the CNCF but worry about customer confusion as the projects get closer to end users. IMO containerd/rkt don't matter much to end users because they are not (usually) implementing them directly, but linkerd/istio may cause more confusion.

I know linkerd can be integrated under istio but it's not the default just as rkt under Kubernetes is available but not default.

I'm all in favor of envoy as part of the CNCF. I just wanted to voice my concerns.


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On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Alexis Richardson via cncf-toc <cncf-toc@...> wrote:
kicking off a thread in case TOC community have questions or comments on Envoy

I have copied matt


Envoy next steps:
- alexis & ken follow up re sponsoring formal proposal & DD  
   - talk to end users
   - talk to istio re prometheus/envoy; also: opentracing
   - identify TOC contributors to help with DD




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