Rob, Zach, to
clarify: do you have specific concerns about InfraKit that we should ask
Dave to address?
My understanding is that 1)
InfraKit is OS-agnostic and does not require LinuxKit 2) InfraKit does
not impose an immutable operating system pattern.
Rob,
you suggest more review: specifically what should we review? I think we
should aim to get to "yes" or "no" in a timely fashion.
I'd agree with
Rob here. LinuxKit is certain a component, but I think that the full
hardware and network lifecycle associated with booting "all the things"
is a pretty broad and messy space right now, particularly across private
datacenters vs public clouds.
-Zac
Responding to
request from TOC meeting last week...
I think that
Day 1 and Day 2 provisioning is key area for CNCF to cover; however, I
think that the space is transforming in several different ways so I
would suggest more review by the TOC. Obviously, I have an interest in
this since I'm a lead on Digital Rebar. For that reason, I'm reluctant
to push against or pull for related projects.
For
LinuxKit specifically, I think the emphasis on immutable operating
systems should be considered carefully. There are many benefits to this
approach but they cannot be applied generally to legacy workloads and
management tooling. I believe that operational adoption is accelerated
when tooling fits well with both new and existing ops models.
Again
- I'm happy to show how we solve this problem with Digital Rebar at a
TOC. It's not just about physical provisioning - managing server
life-cycle in multiple infastructures is a key design requirement.
Tooling that does not address the full life-cycle may actually make
management harder over time.
+1 to Alexis and Rob.
I'd really like to see a
good breakdown comparison between Infrakit and digital rebar, bosh,
cloudformation, fog,and others
All,
I'd
be happy to present / demo Digital Rebar to provide another cloud
native perspective on how to address hybrid infrastructure automation. I
believe that would help provide a helpful perspective on operational
concerns and how to address them in a way that fits the CNCF community.
As you know, we've been heavily involved in the Kubernetes community
and have been showing an approach that uses the community Ansible for
Kubernetes. We've also done demos also showing LinuxKit integration.
Rob
