Re: Infrakit Questions


Zachary Smith
 

Thanks Solomon!

I also mis-used LinuxKit instead of InfraKit below.  Very much still catching up with the terms right now.

I also see this as very broad and there is so much that can be done with InfraKit, so I need to learn more and tinker more.  Looking forward to further conversation on this.

Thanks!

-Zac



Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:27 PM
Rob, Zach, to clarify: do you have specific concerns about InfraKit that we should ask Dave to address?

My understanding is that 1) InfraKit is OS-agnostic and does not require LinuxKit 2) InfraKit does not impose an immutable operating system pattern.


Rob, you suggest more review: specifically what should we review? I think we should aim to get to "yes" or "no" in a timely fashion.


Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:32 PM
I'd agree with Rob here.  LinuxKit is certain a component, but I think that the full hardware and network lifecycle associated with booting "all the things" is a pretty broad and messy space right now, particularly across private datacenters vs public clouds.

-Zac




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Tuesday, June 27, 2017 11:27 AM
Responding to request from TOC meeting last week...

I think that Day 1 and Day 2 provisioning is key area for CNCF to cover; however, I think that the space is transforming in several different ways so I would suggest more review by the TOC.  Obviously, I have an interest in this since I'm a lead on Digital Rebar.  For that reason, I'm reluctant to push against or pull for related projects.

For LinuxKit specifically, I think the emphasis on immutable operating systems should be considered carefully.  There are many benefits to this approach but they cannot be applied generally to legacy workloads and management tooling.  I believe that operational adoption is accelerated when tooling fits well with both new and existing ops models.

Again - I'm happy to show how we solve this problem with Digital Rebar at a TOC.  It's not just about physical provisioning - managing server life-cycle in multiple infastructures is a key design requirement.  Tooling that does not address the full life-cycle may actually make management harder over time.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2017 11:56 AM
+1 to Alexis and Rob.

I'd really like to see a good breakdown comparison between Infrakit and digital rebar, bosh, cloudformation, fog,and others

Alex Baretto




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Tuesday, June 6, 2017 11:51 AM
All,

I'd be happy to present / demo Digital Rebar to provide another cloud native perspective on how to address hybrid infrastructure automation.  I believe that would help provide a helpful perspective on operational concerns and how to address them in a way that fits the CNCF community.  As you know, we've been heavily involved in the Kubernetes community and have been showing an approach that uses the community Ansible for Kubernetes.  We've also done demos also showing LinuxKit integration.

Rob

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