Hello & Questions


Toni Menzel
 

Thanks Alois, thanks for the kind introduction. Much appreciated!

About the Term Cloud Native DevEx, well i don't limit DevEx to be only about (traditional) Developer Roles. The whole DevEx thing (independent of cloud native) is cultural and also lifts (traditional) role models. But I agree, when trying to clear up things its counterproductive to describe it with a non-intuitive terminology.

Thanks for the Doc-Link with the Glossary, I'll continue there.

Toni

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On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 1:14 AM Reitbauer, Alois <alois.reitbauer@...> wrote:

Hello Toni,

 

Re: 1 - Contribution

First of great that you are interested in contributing. There is lots of work to do for everybody.

 

Re: 2 – Dev Experience.

I generally like the idea. However, there are more roles involved. I am especially thinking of SREs and operations related roles. That’s why we opted for a more generic wording.

 

Re: 3 – What’s next

  • The current working on the dictionary for app delivery is a great place to start sinking your teeth in. [1]
  • I don’t see participation to be limited as long as your fine that all of your participation is open source
  • We are early on the communication front. I expect Slack to be more about deeper interactive discussions and the mailing list for broader discussion. Time will show what works best for this group. It is a great point and we can put it on the agenda for the next meeting.
  • Right now we are still getting settled in. Expect to see more activity over the next weeks and months.

 

[1]  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gMhRz4vEwiHa3uD8DqFKHGTSxrVJNgkLG2WZWvi9lXo/edit

 

 

From: <cncf-sig-app-delivery@...> on behalf of Toni Menzel <toni.menzel@...>
Date: Tuesday, 17. September 2019 at 11:12
To: "cncf-sig-app-delivery@..." <cncf-sig-app-delivery@...>
Subject: [cncf-sig-app-delivery] Hello & Questions

 

Hey there,

 

1.

I just discovered this SIG a couple of days ago, mostly rewatching the recorded meetings on YT (e.g. [1]).

Looking at the now final Charter at [2] the topics seem super close to my field of work and interest (of course they match ..;).

Even if I am late, would really like to help on this one!

 

2.

Speaking of the charter, I am actually missing a key-word expression that I think describes very well to what this SIG does: It's Developer Experience, or maybe Cloud Native Developer Experience (#CNDX if you want).

 

Developer Experience is linked to the ergonomics that the ecosystem gives you. This includes Tools, Best Practices, Documentation/Learning Paths, access to support etc. To me this sounds exactly like what you described in the charter. What do you think? Do you think that term signals anything or just belongs on the pile of buzzwords ?

 

3.

Now i am really keen: how do you work from here? Let me be straight with the questions:

  • Is there a place/working draft for the prospected whitepaper(s) already? Where would that go?
  • Is participation limited to CNCF members (rebaze - my company - is not a member yet) ? [3] says it's quite informal.
  • Where would primary communication go? I see the slack channel and this mailing list competing..
  • Are there other "working-calls" in this SIG other than the official ones in the CNCF calendar? Since the Github repo seems quite fresh it seems hard to get started helping out.. where would I need to go?

Thanks, looking forward to work on this SIG,

Toni

 


Toni Menzel | toni.menzel@...

Software Engineering Therapist @ rebaze

Alleestrasse 25 / 30167 Hannover / Germany

M +49 171 6520284

 

rebaze is a Developer Experience Consultancy.

 

rebaze GmbH, Zollstrasse 6, 39114 Magdeburg, Germany

Managing Director: Toni Menzel

Registration Court: District Court of Stendal

Registration Number: HRB 17993

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Reitbauer, Alois
 

Hello Toni,

 

Re: 1 - Contribution

First of great that you are interested in contributing. There is lots of work to do for everybody.

 

Re: 2 – Dev Experience.

I generally like the idea. However, there are more roles involved. I am especially thinking of SREs and operations related roles. That’s why we opted for a more generic wording.

 

Re: 3 – What’s next

  • The current working on the dictionary for app delivery is a great place to start sinking your teeth in. [1]
  • I don’t see participation to be limited as long as your fine that all of your participation is open source
  • We are early on the communication front. I expect Slack to be more about deeper interactive discussions and the mailing list for broader discussion. Time will show what works best for this group. It is a great point and we can put it on the agenda for the next meeting.
  • Right now we are still getting settled in. Expect to see more activity over the next weeks and months.

 

[1]  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gMhRz4vEwiHa3uD8DqFKHGTSxrVJNgkLG2WZWvi9lXo/edit

 

 

From: <cncf-sig-app-delivery@...> on behalf of Toni Menzel <toni.menzel@...>
Date: Tuesday, 17. September 2019 at 11:12
To: "cncf-sig-app-delivery@..." <cncf-sig-app-delivery@...>
Subject: [cncf-sig-app-delivery] Hello & Questions

 

Hey there,

 

1.

I just discovered this SIG a couple of days ago, mostly rewatching the recorded meetings on YT (e.g. [1]).

Looking at the now final Charter at [2] the topics seem super close to my field of work and interest (of course they match ..;).

Even if I am late, would really like to help on this one!

 

2.

Speaking of the charter, I am actually missing a key-word expression that I think describes very well to what this SIG does: It's Developer Experience, or maybe Cloud Native Developer Experience (#CNDX if you want).

 

Developer Experience is linked to the ergonomics that the ecosystem gives you. This includes Tools, Best Practices, Documentation/Learning Paths, access to support etc. To me this sounds exactly like what you described in the charter. What do you think? Do you think that term signals anything or just belongs on the pile of buzzwords ?

 

3.

Now i am really keen: how do you work from here? Let me be straight with the questions:

  • Is there a place/working draft for the prospected whitepaper(s) already? Where would that go?
  • Is participation limited to CNCF members (rebaze - my company - is not a member yet) ? [3] says it's quite informal.
  • Where would primary communication go? I see the slack channel and this mailing list competing..
  • Are there other "working-calls" in this SIG other than the official ones in the CNCF calendar? Since the Github repo seems quite fresh it seems hard to get started helping out.. where would I need to go?

Thanks, looking forward to work on this SIG,

Toni

 


Toni Menzel | toni.menzel@...

Software Engineering Therapist @ rebaze

Alleestrasse 25 / 30167 Hannover / Germany

M +49 171 6520284

 

rebaze is a Developer Experience Consultancy.

 

rebaze GmbH, Zollstrasse 6, 39114 Magdeburg, Germany

Managing Director: Toni Menzel

Registration Court: District Court of Stendal

Registration Number: HRB 17993

Sales Tax (VAT) Registration Number: DE282233792

The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it. Dynatrace Austria GmbH (registration number FN 91482h) is a company registered in Linz whose registered office is at 4040 Linz, Austria, Freistädterstraße 313


Toni Menzel
 

Hey there,

1.
I just discovered this SIG a couple of days ago, mostly rewatching the recorded meetings on YT (e.g. [1]).
Looking at the now final Charter at [2] the topics seem super close to my field of work and interest (of course they match ..;).
Even if I am late, would really like to help on this one!

2.
Speaking of the charter, I am actually missing a key-word expression that I think describes very well to what this SIG does: It's Developer Experience, or maybe Cloud Native Developer Experience (#CNDX if you want).

Developer Experience is linked to the ergonomics that the ecosystem gives you. This includes Tools, Best Practices, Documentation/Learning Paths, access to support etc. To me this sounds exactly like what you described in the charter. What do you think? Do you think that term signals anything or just belongs on the pile of buzzwords ?

3.
Now i am really keen: how do you work from here? Let me be straight with the questions:
  • Is there a place/working draft for the prospected whitepaper(s) already? Where would that go?
  • Is participation limited to CNCF members (rebaze - my company - is not a member yet) ? [3] says it's quite informal.
  • Where would primary communication go? I see the slack channel and this mailing list competing..
  • Are there other "working-calls" in this SIG other than the official ones in the CNCF calendar? Since the Github repo seems quite fresh it seems hard to get started helping out.. where would I need to go?
Thanks, looking forward to work on this SIG,
Toni


Toni Menzel | toni.menzel@...
Software Engineering Therapist @ rebaze
Alleestrasse 25 / 30167 Hannover / Germany
M +49 171 6520284

rebaze is a Developer Experience Consultancy.

rebaze GmbH, Zollstrasse 6, 39114 Magdeburg, Germany
Managing Director: Toni Menzel
Registration Court: District Court of Stendal
Registration Number: HRB 17993
Sales Tax (VAT) Registration Number: DE282233792