Re: Kubernetes beta exam and possible Docker exam?

Erno Erdelyi

Hi Dan.

OK, I see. Naturally an official Docker exam by Docker itself would be the best especially in a similar online hands-on version. My impression is that Docker doesn't have the resources for creating the certification, they obviously focus on other areas. If so, it would be logical that Docker would directly cooperate with the Linux Foundation (similarly to Openstack and Kubernetes) which has the infrastructure, expertize and hopefully the resources to create a joint Docker exam in the foreseeable future, e.g. in this year. I guess there would be substantial number of volunteers to support them.


On 2017.02.23. 16:37, Dan Kohn wrote:
Hi, Erno. Docker is a platinum member of CNCF and Solomon Hykes is a member of CNCF's Technical Oversight Committee. I think it would be extremely unlikely for CNCF or the LF to create a certification course without the active participation of the company that controls the technology. However, I'll forward your request to their VP Marketing and see what he thinks.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Erno Erdelyi <erno@...> wrote:
Hello all at Kubernetes Certification Working Group,

I'd like to inform Liz also this way that our company (Component Soft) is also interested in participating the Kubernetes beta exam process with 2-3 engineers. We did the same in last spring with the Certified Openstack Administrator (COA) beta exam which happened to be managed also by Liz.

And a related and important question: it seams so that Docker, the company, is somehow not able to create a Docker certification which would otherwise be very useful for the whole industry. Has the Linux Foundation no plans to create one? I think it would not only be a very useful service for the Docker and hence the Kubernetes ecosystem but also a substantial revenue source for the Foundation, especially if a related self-paced online Docker course would be also created. And training companies like ourselves could sell bundles of their live Docker trainings and this exam (as it happens with Openstack courses and the COA exam as well).

Erno Erdelyi
managing director
Component Soft Ltd.
Fehervari str. 126-128.
Budapest, Hungary, H-1116
Phone: +36 1 487-4040
Email: erno@...

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Thanks a lot, that helps.  Not sure how I missed the part of the MOOC.

Per Liz's original email, looking for beta testers, shall we just sit tight
and wait to hear back?  There was nothing to register for the honor!



On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <runseb@...>

On Feb 15, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Ronald Petty <ronald.petty@...> wrote:

Just to clarify, I am unaware of an MOOC.  I was part of an effort
December to create what I believe is an intermediate level test.  I believe
she was asking us to beta test that particular test.  Again, I thought that
test was still being 'developed', meaning the training, etc.   Not sure
exactly what were signing up for.

Ron (et al.), there are several things:

- LF will develop a free course for intro to k8s, this will be available
don eDx and is known as a MOOC.
- The LF course LFS258, currently called ?Kubernetes Fundamentals?
available now (which to be transparent, I wrote).
-The certification.

What you and I and others participated in was a workshop to help build
that certification. I don?t think it is done and Liz says they are aiming
for June/July.
There will need to be beta-testers of that exam.

The sign up link she put at the end of her email is a signup for the
course LFS258, it is not a sign up for the beta-testing of the
certification exam.

LF?s plan is to extend LFS258 content to cover all topics defined in the
scope definition so that the course can be used as an exam prep.

That?s my understanding of things, hope that helps.




On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Dan Kohn <dan@...> wrote:

Liz left out of her update our plans to create a free Massively Open
Online Course (MOOC) covering Kubernetes that will be free. The training
course (available now) is $199 and the certification will also have a

Clyde or Liz, could you please provide an update on the MOOC?

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 9:23 PM, Srikar Ananthula <
ananthulasrikar@...> wrote:

In general I think we should have a free online course of kubernetes
fundamentals (may be a minimal version of Kubernetes fundamentals [1])
something similar to this [2] to promote kubernetes.

Is there any plan for special discounts for Linux Foundation/Student membership


On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 12:45 AM, Liz Kline <lkline@...>

Hello Kubernetes Certification Working Group!

In November, the Cloud Native Computing Foundation
<> (CNCF) launched
a new training, certification and Kubernetes Managed Service Provider
(KMSP) program
Since that announcement, a team of K8s experts have been busy defining an
online, proctored certification program to be run by The Linux Foundation
for CNCF. Below is an update on the certification progress so far.

We are still looking for volunteers to help with beta testing the
exams. If you have interest and expertise please consider subscribing to
the Kubernetes Certification Working Group list. We?ll be reaching out
to volunteers as the process progresses.


   - The exam will be performance-based (i.e. live system) which
   candidates have to operate
   - Job Task Analysis (JTA) Committee of K8s community experts met in
   Dec 2016 and defined the overall scope, topics for the exams as well as
   drafted the exam items
   - Team is currently working on setting up an environment that can
   be automatically deployed for each candidate
   - In parallel, work has started to to develop the automated scripts
   to setup and grade the exam items
   - Currently forecasting to field test in May and publicly launch in

Scope Definition for the Certified Kubernetes Administrator (CKA) exam
A certified K8s administrator can work proficiently to design, install,
configure, and manage a Kubernetes production-grade cluster.  They will
have an understanding of key concepts such as Kubernetes networking,
storage, security, maintenance, logging and monitoring, application
lifecycle, troubleshooting, API object primitives and the ability to
establish basic use-cases for end users.

JTA Development
13 K8s experts from 9 different companies participated in a facilitated
2-day DACUM (Developing a Curriculum) workshop in early December and

   - 10 subject Domains and their % weight on the exam:

5%   Scheduling
5%   Logging / Monitoring
8%   Application Lifecycle Management
11% Cluster Maintenance
12% Security
7%   Storage
10%  Troubleshooting
19%  Core Concepts
11%  Networking
12%  Installation & Configuration

   - 55 Topics, aka subdomains
   - The exam environment and technical specs
   - An estimated exam length of 4 hours

Exam Item Development
14 K8s experts from 13 different companies participated in a second,
intensive 2-day item writing workshop facilitated by a performance-based
assessment expert in mid-December and:

   - drafted 44 exam items based on the Domains and Topics defined
   during the JTA; items are logged in a private GitHub repo
   - chose 34 of the best Items targeted for the exam by weighted
   - applied a difficulty rating of Easy, Moderate, Hard for each item
   - agreed upon a K8s Exam environment proposal

Timeline for the Next Steps

   - Exam item refinement is ongoing
   - 10 week process to complete items set up, exam environment, and
   develop the grading scripts. (thru mid April).
   - 8 weeks post-setup to conduct the alpha/beta testing, determine
   passing score,and set up exam portal (mid April to early June)

   - Exam launch targeted for the 2nd week of June

We?ve also made available (in partnership with The Linux Foundation) a
self-paced online training course that aims to prepare users for the K8s
exam. You can find details and sign up for it here

Liz Kline

Liz Kline
Certification Manager
The Linux Foundation
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